Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Mar 2013 11:08 UTC
Windows After ditching its Windows RT tablets from the US market, Samsung has now also confirmed to Heise.de it's going to stop selling them in Germany and several other European countries. The company cites lack of interest from consumers and confusion over what Windows RT is. Combined with the massive discounts Microsoft is now giving to OEMs, the writing is on the wall here: Windows 8 - specifically on tablets but also in general - is turning into a failure.
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

It's about time that the minority that expect society to attach padding to their lives grew up and acted like adults.


You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does.

It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week.

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chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does.


Actually I do, I can't think of anything I purchase that I don't know well or at least read up on before purchasing, I've even researched the meat content percentage of different meat pie brands at my local supermarket.

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RshPL Member since:
2009-03-13

So basically you research products that you care about. Average person does not care so much about computers.

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Congratulations, you are the atypical consumer. Your psychological make-up makes you methodical and prepared. It also makes you part of a minority. Most people don't want to know what magic goblins make the thingamajig go. As long as it goes.

If it says Windows on the tin, it better do what Windows does. No, what kind of incompatible goblins (ARM) are underneath is irrelevant. If Auntie Maggie's Birthdaycard Maker Deluxe doesn't work on Windows RT, then Windows RT is broken. Especially because Windows RT carries a desktop mode, so it definitely smells like regular Windows.

You want to know the thought processes involved? Pick an area that absolutely doesn't interest you, doesn't interest you at all. Now go research that and see how much detail you allow yourself to eek out of it.

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Quake Member since:
2005-10-14

You're one of the minority. The majority relies on impulse buying where marketing guides them to which products they should choose. And not everybody has the time to research the technical aspect of every product so this is Microsoft's fault.

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elektrik Member since:
2006-04-18

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does.


Actually I do, I can't think of anything I purchase that I don't know well or at least read up on before purchasing, I've even researched the meat content percentage of different meat pie brands at my local supermarket.
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....like toilet paper? Bottled Water? gas for your car? trail mix? If so, wow I wish I had that much time on my hands!

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ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week.


I find advertisements irritating and tend to boycott companies for getting through my ad blocking but, even before I stopped watching TV, I'd always pick the cheapest toothpaste which matches the active ingredients and other properties of brands I'm already familiar with, regardless of branding.

These days, whenever I do see advertising, I consider it a disincentive because there must be some generic competitor capable of offering the same product at the same price... minus the cost of running the ads.

However, I will admit that, once in a blue moon, a new type of product will enter my list of things it'd be nifty to have because someone advertised a product that is an instance of it.

(99% of the time, things enter that list because, for example, a friend introduced me to Arduino or LWN mentioned the ColorHug open-source colorimeter, or I was searching for something else on DX.com and stumbled across a $5 magnifier/light monocle intended for watch repair)

Of course, unless it's something truly unique like the Oculus Rift, all that means is that I'll find a generic clone on eBay/DX.com/etc. or wander over to somewhere like Instructables to look for instructions on hacking one up myself.

Edited 2013-03-06 14:11 UTC

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

IOW, ads affect your buying decisions. ;)

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Thom Holwerda,

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does."

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


"It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week."


Your assuming ads work universally, but in fact it depends on the person. Some of us don't watch or listen to ads at all and cannot be influenced that way. Many of us are price shoppers and so brand name's almost always loose out to generics regardless of their ads. Ads are not effective on everyone.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


Some (not all?) of us OSNews.com regulars and tech junkys. q.e.d.

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Thom Holwerda,

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does."

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.

Absolutely but I would suggest it doesn't even take a high ticket price or be restricted to technology. As an example, I know somebody right now who is shopping for a coffee maker in the $100-$200 price range. She's educated herself using owner reviews, warranty details, return policies, etc. She's just an average person who happens to want the best deal & product for her money, and there are tons of people just like her.

"It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week."

Your assuming ads work universally, but in fact it depends on the person. Some of us don't watch or listen to ads at all and cannot be influenced that way. Many of us are price shoppers and so brand name's almost always loose out to generics regardless of their ads. Ads are not effective on everyone.


It's completely idiotic to insist that everyone is a victim of advertising for exactly the reasons you've pointed out and then some. Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.

Again, everybody is subject to suggestion through advertising. However, not everybody is affected to the same degree. For many of us it takes no effort to resist the vast majority, possibly nearly all the advertising we get spammed with.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


Me too. ANYTHING over $100 gets researched, and I'm not talking about just watching ads either.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


You, however, did buy a Windows PC. Thus your brain is bound to extrapolate that to Windows RT.

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bowkota Member since:
2011-10-12


You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does.

You'd be surprised. Ok I won't research products that I use only once or dispose of fast, like food (unless I keep on buying the exact same thing recurrently) and even then there's exceptions.
I'm pretty sure there's people at there that are worse.

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