Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Mar 2013 11:54 UTC
Legal "The European Commission has imposed a EUR 561 million fine on Microsoft for failing to comply with its commitments to offer users a browser choice screen enabling them to easily choose their preferred web browser. In 2009, the Commission had made these commitments legally binding on Microsoft until 2014. In today's decision, the Commission finds that Microsoft failed to roll out the browser choice screen with its Windows 7 Service Pack 1 from May 2011 until July 2012. 15 million Windows users in the EU therefore did not see the choice screen during this period. Microsoft has acknowledged that the choice screen was not displayed during that time." Burn.
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I don't agree
by Invincible Cow on Wed 6th Mar 2013 12:58 UTC
Invincible Cow
Member since:
2006-06-24

As long as they allow other browsers I didn't really see the problem. It's worse on mobile operating system with fixed app stores. When you just can't install any other program, that's a real problem.

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RE: I don't agree
by Alfman on Wed 6th Mar 2013 14:44 in reply to "I don't agree"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Invincible Cow,

"As long as they allow other browsers I didn't really see the problem."

That was the problem, microsoft was prohibiting OEMs from installing any other browsers (god knows they weren't prohibited from installing mountains of other crapware), and making it impossible for competing browsers to be included. This is classic anti-trust behavior and the browser choice screen was intended to rectify it. The original problem may be gone, but it was foolish of microsoft to test the court's resolve.


"It's worse on mobile operating system with fixed app stores. When you just can't install any other program, that's a real problem."

I completely agree, it will be a sad state of affairs if closed computing devices take over the consumer market.

Edited 2013-03-06 14:46 UTC

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RE[2]: I don't agree
by RawMustard on Wed 6th Mar 2013 15:04 in reply to "RE: I don't agree"
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

I completely agree, it will be a sad state of affairs if closed computing devices take over the consumer market.


Then stop buying them, it's not hard!

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v RE: I don't agree
by Tony Swash on Wed 6th Mar 2013 18:14 in reply to "I don't agree"
RE[2]: I don't agree
by Fergy on Wed 6th Mar 2013 18:45 in reply to "RE: I don't agree"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

I am interested in your comment about not being able to install other programs (presumably you mean apps) and I was wondering what programs you think are prohibited. The reason I ask is because, taking iOS as an example simply because it's the one I know first hand, I can install alternative browsers, email clients, mapping apps, contact app, calendar apps, e-book readers etc, and use them instead of the packaged apps that come pre-installed with the system, so I was wondering what you think is being blocked.

Just try to install Firefox on your iPhone or Windows Phone. You can't because they block it.

Edited 2013-03-06 18:46 UTC

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RE[2]: I don't agree
by M.Onty on Wed 6th Mar 2013 18:52 in reply to "RE: I don't agree"
M.Onty Member since:
2009-10-23

They block all alternate browser engines, i.e. all browsers that are more than a skin.

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RE[2]: I don't agree
by BushLin on Thu 7th Mar 2013 09:48 in reply to "RE: I don't agree"
BushLin Member since:
2011-01-26

Lol Tony, in trying to make your usual Apple slanted post you're just highlighting the problem on iOS which no one directly mentioned before.

Apple don't allow competition with their own apps on iOS, they didn't even allow tools which efficiently converted flash into their own proprietary format in the name of... er... openness?

MS and the days of IE6 were bad times, Firebird (as Firefox was called back then) was the shining light so at least those who saw what was happening could switch and others followed.
What are you going to do on iOS today? It's only webkit in different dressings (and artificially hindered compared to Safari).

Wish you'd kept your mouth shut or just stuck to MS bashing?

Edited 2013-03-07 09:54 UTC

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