Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Mar 2013 11:08 UTC
Windows After ditching its Windows RT tablets from the US market, Samsung has now also confirmed to Heise.de it's going to stop selling them in Germany and several other European countries. The company cites lack of interest from consumers and confusion over what Windows RT is. Combined with the massive discounts Microsoft is now giving to OEMs, the writing is on the wall here: Windows 8 - specifically on tablets but also in general - is turning into a failure.
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Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

Thom Holwerda,

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does."

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


"It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week."


Your assuming ads work universally, but in fact it depends on the person. Some of us don't watch or listen to ads at all and cannot be influenced that way. Many of us are price shoppers and so brand name's almost always loose out to generics regardless of their ads. Ads are not effective on everyone.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


Some (not all?) of us OSNews.com regulars and tech junkys. q.e.d.

Edited 2013-03-06 17:13 UTC

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

cdude,

"Some (not all?) of us OSNews.com regulars and tech junkys. q.e.d."


And? Some people do more research than others. There are a lot of things I'd research even if they weren't in my field: bicycles, vacuum cleaners, lawn mowers, cars, etc. That's just me. If I'm going to spend a lot of money on something I want to make sure it works and lasts.

I've actually changed somewhat over the past few years. I used to be price sensitive above all else, but I'm so tired of being burned by things breaking or not working like they're supposed to that I consider paying more than I used to for higher quality. This is no small feat in part because everyone (even brand names) are migrating to the cheapest possible Chinese components they can find.

Edited 2013-03-06 17:43 UTC

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Thom Holwerda,

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does."

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.

Absolutely but I would suggest it doesn't even take a high ticket price or be restricted to technology. As an example, I know somebody right now who is shopping for a coffee maker in the $100-$200 price range. She's educated herself using owner reviews, warranty details, return policies, etc. She's just an average person who happens to want the best deal & product for her money, and there are tons of people just like her.

"It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week."

Your assuming ads work universally, but in fact it depends on the person. Some of us don't watch or listen to ads at all and cannot be influenced that way. Many of us are price shoppers and so brand name's almost always loose out to generics regardless of their ads. Ads are not effective on everyone.


It's completely idiotic to insist that everyone is a victim of advertising for exactly the reasons you've pointed out and then some. Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.

Again, everybody is subject to suggestion through advertising. However, not everybody is affected to the same degree. For many of us it takes no effort to resist the vast majority, possibly nearly all the advertising we get spammed with.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.


How do you know that? The whole idea of being subconsciously persuaded to do something is that YOU'RE NOT AWARE that you're being manipulated.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


Me too. ANYTHING over $100 gets researched, and I'm not talking about just watching ads either.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.


You, however, did buy a Windows PC. Thus your brain is bound to extrapolate that to Windows RT.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

JAlexoid,

"You, however, did buy a Windows PC. Thus your brain is bound to extrapolate that to Windows RT."

My response to Thom was really just to counter one point out of context of this whole Windows RT thing. I agree that the "Windows RT" name is misleading, and the ads don't acknowledge it. It is likely there are some customers buying these devices without knowledge of the software limitations of windows rt because no one told them this windows isn't the same windows.

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