Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Mar 2013 11:08 UTC
Windows After ditching its Windows RT tablets from the US market, Samsung has now also confirmed to Heise.de it's going to stop selling them in Germany and several other European countries. The company cites lack of interest from consumers and confusion over what Windows RT is. Combined with the massive discounts Microsoft is now giving to OEMs, the writing is on the wall here: Windows 8 - specifically on tablets but also in general - is turning into a failure.
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ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

Thom Holwerda,

"You don't research every product you buy. That's nonsense, and you know it. Nobody does."

Maybe not "every product", but you'd be surprised Thom. Some of us are in the habit of researching the products we buy when we haven't bought them before, *especially* for high ticket technology items.

Absolutely but I would suggest it doesn't even take a high ticket price or be restricted to technology. As an example, I know somebody right now who is shopping for a coffee maker in the $100-$200 price range. She's educated herself using owner reviews, warranty details, return policies, etc. She's just an average person who happens to want the best deal & product for her money, and there are tons of people just like her.

"It's just as much nonsense as people claiming not to be influenced by advertisements. I always get a good laugh out of that that one whenever people say that, after which they subconsciously pick the toothpaste that's seen heavy ad rotation on TV this past week."

Your assuming ads work universally, but in fact it depends on the person. Some of us don't watch or listen to ads at all and cannot be influenced that way. Many of us are price shoppers and so brand name's almost always loose out to generics regardless of their ads. Ads are not effective on everyone.


It's completely idiotic to insist that everyone is a victim of advertising for exactly the reasons you've pointed out and then some. Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.

Again, everybody is subject to suggestion through advertising. However, not everybody is affected to the same degree. For many of us it takes no effort to resist the vast majority, possibly nearly all the advertising we get spammed with.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.


How do you know that? The whole idea of being subconsciously persuaded to do something is that YOU'RE NOT AWARE that you're being manipulated.

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

"Some people are indeed very impressionable, but others are highly non-impressionable. You may find plenty of items in Thom's house that he was subconsciously instructed to purchase but you'd be hard-pressed doing that in my house.


How do you know that? The whole idea of being subconsciously persuaded to do something is that YOU'RE NOT AWARE that you're being manipulated.
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Like many people, I decide what I like, prefer, and want to purchase based on my own criteria & justifications. Unlike the type of person you're describing who tends to be thoughtless and easily persuaded.

Advertising is certainly manipulative, but it is not magical. To think that everybody who is exposed to advertising is hypnotized either consciously or subconsciously is silly at best. There's no getting around the fact people are individuals and that alone means advertising can not be 100% effective.

Edited 2013-03-06 19:32 UTC

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