Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Mar 2013 10:35 UTC
Legal "Apple vs. Samsung initially ended with a billion-dollar verdict in favor of Apple, but there have been plenty of wrinkles since. This week brought about another, as Nokia filed an amicus brief on behalf of Apple, Inc. in the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. In the brief filed Monday, Nokia asked the court to permit permanent injunctions on the sale of Samsung phones that were found to infringe Apple's patents." In the meantime, the latest comScore figures for the US show that Windows Phone's market share actually declined during the launch of Windows Phone 8. It's pretty clear that, combined with the disappointing quarterly results for Nokia, the company is setting itself up for the future. In this future, Nokia's patent portfolio is worth more than their actual phone business, and as such, Nokia can't do anything but support Apple in this case, else the value of their portfolio goes down.
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RE[3]: It isn't about Samsung
by static666 on Thu 7th Mar 2013 14:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: It isn't about Samsung"
static666
Member since:
2006-06-09

Yes, Italy with 14% and the United Kingdom with 6%, or Finland with 17% sure are Soviet satellites. /s

Well, Finland looks a no-brainer. Would be strange for Nokia to lose foot even in its native market. Substantially higher than global percent in Italy hints at possible pushes of contract bundles or otherwise depends on local market specifics.

We should not forget how the market is structured. There's always a portion of people, who do not care about platforms, fragmentation, openness or application store policies but rather features of a particular phone they liked. This group is very gullible and easy to convert to any platform given enough advertising and promotion.

Until the figure of WP global market penetration is out of statistical insignificance of a couple of percents, I can't find myself relying on it. My pessimism is OK, since I'm not trying to predict the future, but follow what everybody else is using now.

I'd caution you against being on the wrong side of history with your pessimism.

Good thing I'm only choosing a phone but not which shares to buy.

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RE[4]: It isn't about Samsung
by Nelson on Thu 7th Mar 2013 18:53 in reply to "RE[3]: It isn't about Samsung"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The US distorts this quite a bit given the sheer size of the market. Nokia knows they have a US problem. They do. However just because a US problem distorts global market share statistics, does not imply that they're not doing well in other parts of the world.

This Windows Phone isn't selling meme died with WP8. Definitively.

They have a long way to go, but small to modest sales does not mean nobody is buying them.

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WHAT?!?
by sgtrock on Thu 7th Mar 2013 19:26 in reply to "RE[4]: It isn't about Samsung"
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2011-05-13

@Nelson:
"This Windows Phone isn't selling meme died with WP8. Definitively.

They have a long way to go, but small to modest sales does not mean nobody is buying them."

I STRONGLY recommend that you re-think what you're saying. The best analyst focused on the mobile market these days is probably Tomi Ahonen. He has been right time after time when other analysts looking at the smartphone market have been way off:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/02/so-whose-your-...

His analysis of the 2012 Q4 and full year numbers give some additional detail:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/02/so-whose-your-...

I hate to say it, but you are just whistling in the dark if you think Microsoft is going to ever be a serious player in mobile with WP8. Their Skype problem makes them DOA as far as all carriers are concerned.

Edited 2013-03-07 19:27 UTC

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