Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Mar 2013 10:35 UTC
Legal "Apple vs. Samsung initially ended with a billion-dollar verdict in favor of Apple, but there have been plenty of wrinkles since. This week brought about another, as Nokia filed an amicus brief on behalf of Apple, Inc. in the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. In the brief filed Monday, Nokia asked the court to permit permanent injunctions on the sale of Samsung phones that were found to infringe Apple's patents." In the meantime, the latest comScore figures for the US show that Windows Phone's market share actually declined during the launch of Windows Phone 8. It's pretty clear that, combined with the disappointing quarterly results for Nokia, the company is setting itself up for the future. In this future, Nokia's patent portfolio is worth more than their actual phone business, and as such, Nokia can't do anything but support Apple in this case, else the value of their portfolio goes down.
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RE[4]: WHAT?!?
by Valhalla on Thu 7th Mar 2013 23:51 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: WHAT?!?"
Valhalla
Member since:
2006-01-24

Oh please, neither you nor the person who created that blog (is it you?) would have spent time attacking his claims if he was not influental.

You liked what he wrote until he started writing bad stuff about Microsoft's mobile efforts, then suddenly he is a hack.

I'm sorry but your objectivity regarding Microsoft has no credibility at all as far as I'm concerned.

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RE[5]: WHAT?!?
by Nelson on Fri 8th Mar 2013 02:37 in reply to "RE[4]: WHAT?!?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Oh please, neither you nor the person who created that blog (is it you?) would have spent time attacking his claims if he was not influental.


No it's not me, and that's pretty stupid logic. He's not influential overall in mobile anymore BECAUSE he's been consistently proven wrong by multiple sources (including the great Peter Bright from ArsTechnica)and no one looks to him as an authoritative source any longer.

It is great that people started fact checking him. However, my suspicion is that you like what he writes a little too much to take a look at him objectively.

I am absolutely fascinated with Nokia's predicament and ways for them to get out of it -- and I do keep up with his posts. I just am highly skeptical of the figures he cites, especially since once you track them down, they end up being from a dubious "Tomi consulting", or figures he just fucking made up.

He lied about Lumia return rates (and many on OSNews regurgitated this FUD), lied on the effect of Skype, and on Mr. Elop's comments, lied about his supposed "Elop effect" and many other whoppers.

He's particularly an effective little troll when it comes to people who want to believe that Nokia is doomed, Microsoft is doomed, etc.

Look, I don't deny Microsoft has trouble in mobile. I in fact go on rather lengthy diatribes bout why I think they are in the predicament they are in. That's fine. I welcome that.

What Tomi does is separate all together. He purposely smears Nokia to get views. He doesn't so much hit Microsoft -- but he has a particularly nasty bone to pick with Nokia, specifically Stephen Elop.

I again, implore you to think objectively and consider the link I've provided. If after taking a look, you can spot some glaring mistake in the analysis provided, then say so.

To dismiss it completely because he must have it our for Tomi, or that I'm him (Despite the fact that I'm not Finnish, but hey), is wrong in my opinion.


You liked what he wrote until he started writing bad stuff about Microsoft's mobile efforts, then suddenly he is a hack.


I liked what he wrote about a year before the Nokia-Microsoft deal. He started to really go off of the tracks in the months leading up to the Microsoft deal. Basically he was already irrational far into 2010, likely once he saw the page views he amassed.


I'm sorry but your objectivity regarding Microsoft has no credibility at all as far as I'm concerned.


I can likely be critical of Microsoft in ways you can't even begin to understand because unlike you, I actually walk the walk and try out the products I talk about.

I am well aware of Microsoft's deficiencies in mobile. I don't think WP8 was enough, I think it's actually quite terrible. I think they have a mess on their hands with their dev platform but they're making great strides. I think they have a problem keeping OEMs in line, and a problem sealing the deal in the sales channel.

I think it is more than likely Microsoft which is holding Nokia back. It is Microsoft which isn't firing on all pistons. Nokia is. They're pouring their all into this endeavor.

I can criticize Microsoft too, in fact, I enjoy doing so. But no, never mind all that, I'm apparently just a fan boy.

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