Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Mar 2013 11:54 UTC
Legal "The European Commission has imposed a EUR 561 million fine on Microsoft for failing to comply with its commitments to offer users a browser choice screen enabling them to easily choose their preferred web browser. In 2009, the Commission had made these commitments legally binding on Microsoft until 2014. In today's decision, the Commission finds that Microsoft failed to roll out the browser choice screen with its Windows 7 Service Pack 1 from May 2011 until July 2012. 15 million Windows users in the EU therefore did not see the choice screen during this period. Microsoft has acknowledged that the choice screen was not displayed during that time." Burn.
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RE[7]: Typical EU
by Kochise on Fri 8th Mar 2013 07:45 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Typical EU"
Kochise
Member since:
2006-03-03

What baffles me is how much you disregard corporate IT policies about installing other browser than IE. How many firms dared to use something else than IE/outlook ? Bam, first half of the problem answered. Then the average consumer : why would they use Firefox or Opera if the sites they are browsing are not "IE compatible" thus are rendered very grossly ? Bam, second half of the problem answered.

The W3C is slow as hell into delivering solid, consistent and long lasting web standards so, of course, Microsoft could play with the specs until further notice. But it's the webmasters and web designers to stick to the standard and somewhat "force" Microsoft for compliance.

I don't see where IE is a problem : it is known to be flawed, bugged, toolbared, whatever, but it's ok, people still love it. When people gets fed up of IE, they seek for some other alternatives. When people gets fed up of Windows, they seek for another operating system.

In what a web browser is more important than reading PDF or browsing our pictures portfolio ? Would the EU impose a carousel to select between Adobe Reader/Foxit Reader/..., or ACDSee/Irfanview/..., etc... so that every part of the Windows operating system could be finely tuned according to the user's needs and feeling ?

The EU commission should focus on OEM/UEFI and interoperability (playing BR discs with other video player than the few "licensed") and remove some useless software patents. THAT would be interesting, not the stuff happening behind the users' back about advertising revenue using this or that browser and imposing this or that search engine.

Because everything lies there : advertising revenue, NOT users' choice over one web browser or another.

Kochise

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RE[8]: Typical EU
by JAlexoid on Sat 9th Mar 2013 07:24 in reply to "RE[7]: Typical EU"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Would the EU impose a carousel to select between Adobe Reader/Foxit Reader/..., or ACDSee/Irfanview/..., etc... so that every part of the Windows operating system could be finely tuned according to the user's needs and feeling ?


You are really failing to understand the main premise - Microsoft's Windows + IE were practically hurting the competitive market. They illegally obtained and held onto a market, by using dominance in another market.
If they were to include a PDF reader, that would be a whole separate issue. Investigated separately and checked if that particular action has hurt competition in an unfair way.(Most likely PDF reader will have no issues)

Your right to choose is irrelevant, your ability however is at stake here. Forcing to advertise competitors' product isn't an ordinary thing to be imposed. It's a form of penance instead of a fine. So don't expect a ballot box to be there for everything or anything else.

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RE[9]: Typical EU
by Kochise on Sat 9th Mar 2013 13:13 in reply to "RE[8]: Typical EU"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

What YOU fail to understand is that both Windows AND Internet Explorer are Microsoft's products, thus being sovereign in its own kingdom, their are free to bundle the products and services they want.

Like I said, Microsoft is free do do whatever THEY want with THEIR products, but shouldn't mess with other products and/or standard (OEM/BIOS/UEFI).

Kochise

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