Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 8th Mar 2013 18:24 UTC in reply to "..."
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

No, right now I'm attacking it because of the copyright assignment requirement for contributing to their projects and a severe case of NIH syndrome.

But 5 years ago, yeah jealously and envy were pretty much the only reasons.

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by Hiev on Fri 8th Mar 2013 18:27 in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

right now I'm attacking it because of the copyright assignment requirement for contributing to their projects


So funny you say that, cause you have to have to do the same if you want to contribute to Qt, and yet, I don't seen anybody bitching about it.

and about the NIH syndrome, please, what project doesn't do that? cut the hypocrisy.

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by raboof on Fri 8th Mar 2013 20:06 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
raboof Member since:
2005-07-24

"right now I'm attacking it because of the copyright assignment requirement for contributing to their projects


So funny you say that, cause you have to have to do the same if you want to contribute to Qt
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Qt makes some sense because it has a commercial version and it would make quite the mess when contributions cannot flow into the commercial version: you don't want the two to stray apart too far.

GNU, on the other hand.... but it looks like they're starting to loosen up too ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html )

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by Lunitik on Fri 8th Mar 2013 20:10 in reply to "RE: ..."
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

Apache and Qt use CLA's, are you complaining about that?

All the CLA is doing is taking away responsibility from the project if your code infringes someone elses patent. If for some reason the project changes license to something you don't like as a result of being able to, you can simply fork at the last point that wasn't applicable.

It becomes a question of whether you trust the entity, and that is a personal decision. It clearly isn't actually about CLA's though, as I'm sure your system has software that uses one right now. If you don't trust Canonical, don't use Ubuntu, no one is infringing your rights or freedom, why infringe upon theirs?

Canonical has a right to protect themselves, and are free to invest where they wish. You are free to utilize their work or use something else. What are you actually accomplishing by ranting about it though? You are just wasting your own time and time is the only true resource we ever have.

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by raboof on Sat 9th Mar 2013 10:22 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
raboof Member since:
2005-07-24

Apache and Qt use CLA's, are you complaining about that?


Copyright assignment and a CLA's are two very different things.

All the CLA is doing is taking away responsibility from the project if your code infringes someone elses patent.


Copyright assignment goes a lot further though: it takes away your right to relicense the software you wrote. A CLA (typically) doesn't. Also copyright assignment gives i.e. Canonical the right to relicense the software you wrote as they wish. CLA's (typically) don't.

If you don't trust Canonical, don't use Ubuntu, no one is infringing your rights or freedom, why infringe upon theirs?


Bitching about Canonical doesn't infringe upon their rights or freedom.

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