Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE: Comment by _cynic_
by Lunitik on Fri 8th Mar 2013 19:14 UTC in reply to "Comment by _cynic_"
Lunitik
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2005-08-07

I don't see any issue.

Canonical is only getting flack because they are no longer pandering to enthusiasts. Android is open source but developed behind closed doors, it is pretty successful. What has Desktop Linux accomplished? I love KDE, but I have never met anyone outside a LUG who has even heard of it. My own father has come to me excited about what Ubuntu is doing, mainstream is excited about a Linux user interface! This excites me far more than anything people are complaining about brings me down.

Xorg is crap and Wayland introduces a new protocol for everyone to speak to, apps are already speaking to each other via dbus, all that is necessary is something that can take the in-kernel stuff and render on screen in the many form factors and multiple screen scenarios. There is a reason no one has adopted Wayland since it was announced in 2008, and frankly I think Canonical just got sick of waiting. Here's the kicker though, Mir could implement the Wayland protocol if necessary, it competes with Weston, it just isn't based on Wayland right now.

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RE[2]: Comment by _cynic_
by phoenix on Fri 8th Mar 2013 19:30 in reply to "RE: Comment by _cynic_"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Canonical is only getting flack because they are no longer pandering to enthusiasts. Android is open source but developed behind closed doors, it is pretty successful. What has Desktop Linux accomplished? I love KDE, but I have never met anyone outside a LUG who has even heard of it.


Come to BC, Canada. We expose ~13,000 students to KDE3 every year. ;) And about a third of those get to experience KDE4.

Unfortunately, we'll be migrating the KDE3 desktops to XFce this year, instead of KDE4.

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RE[3]: Comment by _cynic_
by Lunitik on Fri 8th Mar 2013 20:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by _cynic_"
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

There are many big Linux rollouts, there is a few in the hundreds of thousand system range. Again, I ask what this has accomplished. How many people using your systems care that it is running KDE, or have ended up migrating to Linux at home?

The fact that you're migrating to XFce really just shows your deployment is about cost, that is fine but I am sick of seeing the only Linux offerings in stores being extremely underpowered low end machines. How can Linux impress when it is confined to targeting people who are cheap?

Without impressing people, no one will ever adopt it by choice.

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