Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 22:01 UTC
Apple John Siracusa: "On paper, the Mac Pro may no longer be a viable product, but it would be a mistake for Apple to abandon the concept that it embodies. Like the Power Mac before it, the Mac Pro was designed to be the most powerful personal computer Apple knows how to make. That goal should be maintained, even as the individual products that aim to achieve it evolve." I agree wholeheartedly. The Mac Pro - and the PowerMac before it - are amazing products, and I would be quite sad to see them go. They may not always lead the pack in performance, but when it comes to sheer engineering and interior design, they are among the very best. I have zero need for a Mac Pro, but to this day, I always take a few minutes to admire it whenever I pay a visit to my Apple retailer.
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My Mac Pro
by boing on Fri 8th Mar 2013 23:14 UTC
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I bought a Mac Pro in 2006 (Model 1,1) knowing it cost more money. The reason why was I wanted a case that was easy to access, silent, and ran Mac OS X. At the time Windows XP was not robust enough for heavy duty workstation needs, and I got tired of dealing with X-Windows (video) issues in Linux. I still use this same Mac Pro today, and it runs great. It currently runs Snow Leopard (10.6) because I think it is the best Mac OS X version IMHO, plus this Mac has a 32-bit EFI, which apple refuses to upgrade to 64-bit to allow me to install Mountain Lion if I so chose which fixed all of Lions issues. It has 2 CPU's (4-2.66 ghz cores total), 16 gig ECC memory (can increase to 32 GIG), SSD boot drive, and 7 other hard drives (3 internal, 4 external using EATA). This machine is silent, stable, and as lighting fast, even in today's standards. So I never regret this past purchase due to longevity, but I do admit if I did it over again in today's time I would strongly consider Windows 7 or a recent Linux because they have gotten so much better since 2006. But the Mac Pro I bought 7 years later is still a great looking computer and being silent is a plus. It has been one of the best machines I have owned, and plan on using it until it dies. So if someone decided to purchase a Mac Pro as a long term purchase, I wouldn't criticize them at all even if it costs a little more.

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RE: My Mac Pro
by laffer1 on Sat 9th Mar 2013 23:46 in reply to "My Mac Pro"
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I have a Mac Pro 1,1 that I'm preparing to sell. It was my wife's desktop for a long time. She wanted a decent gamer rig for WoW and software development.

The machine was a dual socket 2 x 2.0 Ghz system and I've been able to upgrade it like crazy. It has 7GB of RAM, a Radeon 5700 (upgraded from 1900), and I even upgraded the CPUs to 2 x 1.8Ghz quad core 5300 series xeons. The only problem with this system is the 32bit EFI.

After seeing benchmarks of the Mac mini quad core vs the newer Mac Pro, I decided to "upgrade" to a mac mini in december. The system is much quieter than a Mac Pro but I do miss the internal drive bays.

I realized that I can buy a Mac Mini every other year for the cost of a Mac Pro entry level over a 5 year period.

Had Apple upgraded the Mac Pro to a sandy or ivy bridge xeon I would have bought one in a second. I just can't justify buying such outdated technology when the iMac and Mini are better.

Apple has a huge problem as they don't have real developer hardware anymore.

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RE[2]: My Mac Pro
by ggeldenhuys on Sun 10th Mar 2013 14:01 in reply to "RE: My Mac Pro"
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Apple has a huge problem as they don't have real developer hardware anymore.

I fully agree with that! Considering that you can only develop Mac or iOS software on a Mac (legally), they better give developers decent developer hardware.

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RE: My Mac Pro
by ggeldenhuys on Sun 10th Mar 2013 09:29 in reply to "My Mac Pro"
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I recently got a new desktop system. I contemplated getting a Mac Pro, but for that same price I could get a high spec PC with high quality parts. My system is self built (not a brand name PC).

I have a CoolerMaster casing with sliding HDD trays. Internally it is beautifully machined and painted inside and out - all no tools required maintenance. I have a modular Power Supply, so only cables I need are plugged in and used. I have a water cooled system for the CPU which makes it really quite. I have one large fan which spins slow due to large blades, so that makes near zero noise too. I have a 540Mb read/write speed SSD boot drive, which is incredibly fast and again, no noise. I then have 3x 2TB Western Digital "green" drives is a RAID5 (Actually Raid-Z1, as I run FreeBSD). Because they are green drives the make much less noise than normal drives, and are lot cooler. I t rounded it off with 16GB high quality RAM and a Dell U2711 27" IPS 2560x1440 display. When the system is powered on, I can't hear it at all. Maintenance on the system is very easy, but how often do you really open a system - I don't do it much. Only once in a while I'll open it up to blow out any dust.

This system ticked all the boxes of the things people liked about the Mac Pro. Silent, beautiful, powerful and fast, and as a bonus....half the price of a Mac Pro. I am also more flexible with my hardware. PS: my system can run Mountain Lion just fine too.

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