Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 23:07 UTC
Windows "A senior Samsung Electronics executive said Friday the launch of Windows 8 has failed to bolster demand for PCs and he does not expect the PC industry to rebound soon." Of course, Samsung and other OEMs could've, you know, built better computers. Just a suggestion.
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Significance of data
by Alfman on Fri 8th Mar 2013 23:23 UTC
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When I hear stories like this one, I'm always curious of whether low sales figures can differentiate between a genuine decline in conventional computer users, versus merely a market which has reached saturation.

Does anyone have the data that differentiates between these cases? It's a significant difference between one points to computer usage in decline, but the other points to computer sales in decline while usage remains stable.

Edit: I know this is extremely complicated because sales data has many facets, like the (un)popularity of windows 8, so I'm really more interested in long term research that proves the market is truly shrinking and not just new computer sales... seems like someone would have done this study, but I haven't seen it.

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RE: Significance of data
by butters on Mon 11th Mar 2013 14:23 in reply to "Significance of data"
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I don't think it really matters, because Microsoft sells through OEMs, and the OEMs are revolting en masse. Microsoft burned all their bridges in the OEM community with their secret Surface project and its associated industrial espionage campaign.

Samsung, HP, Acer, and friends are furious with Microsoft. Microsoft had no choice but to take a large equity stake in Dell. At this point, Microsoft doesn't have any friends in the channel unless they buy them.

The only company that burned their bridges worse than Microsoft is NVIDIA. These two companies have pulled the rug out from under their partners so badly that they may never do business again. Microsoft did it with malicious intent to subsume their partners' business models. NVIDIA did it by repeatedly lying to cover up their inability to deliver on promises. Either way, nobody wants to deal with either of them.

Who would have predicted that NVIDIA would announce a new Tegra SoC and not even attempt to identify any launch partners? They've got no customers for their new part, and they've *somehow* managed to lose all three of the major console designs to a competitor which was supposed to be near-death. It's an unmitigated disaster. Microsoft is facing the same kind of backlash in the channel. Everybody is headed for the nearest exit.

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