Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 23:07 UTC
Windows "A senior Samsung Electronics executive said Friday the launch of Windows 8 has failed to bolster demand for PCs and he does not expect the PC industry to rebound soon." Of course, Samsung and other OEMs could've, you know, built better computers. Just a suggestion.
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PC Demand
by boing on Sat 9th Mar 2013 00:17 UTC
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PC (Personal Computers)are shifting from desktops to things like tablets because most normal people out there are information consumers, not producers. Consumers can get by with mobile apps and a web browser. Producers need a more powerful computer for things like Office, Photohsop, etc.. In addition, mobile devices (phone, tablets) are more likely to be purchased more often because they are locked down (not upgradable), break (get dropped), and are cheaper overall. So of course sales of mobile devices is going to increase for the majority of the consumers, while producers will continue to buy desktops.

Windows 8 biggest mistake was forcing the default Windows 8 interface to be Metro on a desktop environment, and having multiple OS types. I think Ubuntu had the right idea, you have the same core OS, but the GUI changes according to the device. Instead Microsoft created separate cores and API's (Windows Phone 8 OS, Windows 8 RT, Windows 8), and then force Metro on all those devices. Very stupid mistake, and that will cost them. If they are smart with the next version of Windows they will do what Ubuntu is planning, have one core Windows 8, and have the GUI change according to the device environment. Heck by that time I bet we will see X86 in phones (give it a few years, don't count Intel out, they will catch up to ARM battery and performance because they have a head start in manufacturing skills). Only good for Microsoft is people moving from Windows XP will probably go to Windows 7.

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RE: PC Demand
by Alfman on Sat 9th Mar 2013 01:12 in reply to "PC Demand"
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"PC (Personal Computers)are shifting from desktops to things like tablets because most normal people out there are information consumers, not producers."

I know this is a common claim: A shift from computers towards tablets is a plausible hypothesis for the drop in conventional computer sales, but on the other hand it's equally plausible that the conventional computer market is just saturated on it's own. Hypothetically even without any tablet market, my inkling is that computer sales would slow down anyways simply because everyone has already bought one and the replacement cycle is longer than needed to keep computer sales going up.

I'd like to know if anyone has concrete data to support one hypothesis over the other.

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RE[2]: PC Demand
by Nelson on Sat 9th Mar 2013 05:40 in reply to "RE: PC Demand"
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I tend to think its likely a combination of both. I'm uncomfortable with explaining away Windows 8's mixed response with a saturated market, but I think it does play somewhat of a role.

I think it will take something to fundamentally change up the form factor before PC sales come back. I think eventually as tablets move up the rung (Become more powerful, longer battery life, and more interesting form factors a'la Surface) then the lines will blur a bit and it could usher in a rebound.

Also, the elongated upgrade cycles are likely to create a short boom in sales eventually if it goes on for long enough -- people need to upgrade sometime.

If they move to to tablets so be it, which will probably boost Windows 8.

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