Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE[8]: Comment by Laurence
by _txf_ on Sat 9th Mar 2013 01:07 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Laurence"
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I am quite sure their rationale for writing Mir was based on the situation when the project was started. It seems that in the mean time, Wayland/Weston have fixed the issue and so the rationale was no longer applicable.

So instead of going to the Wayland developers with suggestions, they decided to say absolutely nothing.

I have brought up SurfaceSlinger to show another example of a company neither going with Xorg or implementing Wayland.

SurfaceFlinger was developed well before Wayland existed

Essentially, all a display server really ought to be doing is handling all form factors and different display configurations, and communicating that to hardware. Input is already in the kernel, drivers are already in the kernel, everything else should not be dependent on a particular IPC unless it is DBUS.

That is all Wayland does. Dbus was looked at but rejected in favour of a protocol optimised for display. It should be noted that SurfaceFlinger uses the Kernel based Binder IPC mechanism. If one were to use Dbus all IPC would have to be routed via another daemon (makes no sense for graphics). Maybe Mir will also use Binder or something like it...

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RE[9]: Comment by Laurence
by Lunitik on Mon 11th Mar 2013 11:46 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Laurence"
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So instead of going to the Wayland developers with suggestions, they decided to say absolutely nothing.

The two are utterly different, there is no way to compromise here. Wayland IS the protocol Ubuntu doesn't want - as evidenced by "protocol independent" statements in the Mir spec. It would be like going to the KDE guys and saying "Qt sucks, lets use GTK for everything", the problems are that core.

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