Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 10th Mar 2013 13:07 UTC
Multimedia, AV A few days ago, Google and the MPEG-LA announced that they had come to an agreement under which Google received a license for techniques in VP8 that may infringe upon MPEG-LA patents (note the 'if any'). Only a few days later, we learn the real reason behind Google and the MPEG-LA striking a deal, thanks to The H Open, making it clear that the MPEG-LA has lost. Big time. Update: Chris Montgomery: "The wording suggests Google paid some money to grease this along, and the agreement wording is interesting [and instructive] but make no mistake: Google won. Full stop."
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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by Vanders on Mon 11th Mar 2013 11:36 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

H264 was developed using a standard setting process, which yielded a lot of disclosure about relevant patents, and in turn H264 is covered in SEPs.

In addition to this, the MPEG LA is a patent pool which facilitates the relatively inexpensive licensing of a bunch of patents related to H264.

VP8 has neither of these, so the situation is much more dire. A person willing to license all of the potential VP8 patents will need to sink a lot of money if a number of people start coming forward (as Nokia has).


What a complete load of absolute rubbish. The situation for submarine patents is identical for both VP8 and H.264.

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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 11th Mar 2013 13:10 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Obviously there's an impasse. I do think its progress I can at least get some people to agree that the patent fears against VP8 are real. Even if they kicked and screamed the entire way.

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RE[7]: Comment by Nelson
by Vanders on Tue 12th Mar 2013 10:44 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Nelson"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Obviously there's an impasse. I do think its progress I can at least get some people to agree that the patent fears against VP8 are real. Even if they kicked and screamed the entire way.


I have no problem with you doing that, but at least be honest and get them to agree that the situation applies equally to H264.

The way you're trying to tell things it's as if H264 is whiter than white and VP8 is lurking in the shadows murdering children and stealing everyone else's IP. You're so unbalanced on the subject it's verging on trolling.

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RE[7]: Comment by Nelson
by segedunum on Wed 13th Mar 2013 13:03 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Nelson"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Obviously there's an impasse. I do think its progress I can at least get some people to agree that the patent fears against VP8 are real.

They might have been real some time ago - and all that was based on hearsay that no one within the MPEG-LA would back up. Those fears are utterly discredited now, a fact you don't seem to be getting for reasons that escape me.

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