Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Mar 2013 21:44 UTC
Windows Microsoft rolled out a bunch of patches today for Windows 8, and the most important one is that Flash in IE10 now works with a blacklist instead of a whitelist. "Well, the biggest news is that Microsoft has enabled Flash to work now in Internet Explorer 10 for RT. If you recall, Microsoft only allowed a few, specific websites with Flash to work on Internet Explorer 10 citing performance and battery life reasons. There was even a neat little work around that you could do yourself to bypass this. Now, Microsoft have reversed that decision, which they say is due to more sites becoming IE10 compatible." There's a firmware update for Surface RT as well, and I have to admit my Surface RT feels a little faster and smoother - especially typing. Could be reboot-induced, though.
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RE[2]: Oh, the arrogance!
by GraphiteCube on Wed 13th Mar 2013 10:21 UTC in reply to "RE: Oh, the arrogance!"
GraphiteCube
Member since:
2009-04-01

iOS didn't (still doesn't, and very likely will not) support Flash, everyone complained "so how do I watch videos on blah blah blah website!?", "how do I play Flash games blah blah blah!?". Few years later, Adobe announced that Flash player for Android 4.x (?) will be the last version and no more further development will be done. Everyone rejoice "whoa! yeah! bye bye Flash! no more power consumption monster!".

But how people react to the blocking policy of Flash content on IE? Before: "oh god I NEED FLASH to live! add ALL sites to the damn whitelist!" After: "heh, MSFT is trying to save face!"

People, do you really know what do you want? If you want to move away from Flash/ add-on world, then it is necessary to rewrite websites which make use of Flash/ other technologies rely on add-on, and you will have a native (HTML5/ JavaScript), faster and perhaps less power consuming implementation. Otherwise, keep using Flash, but don't, I mean DO NOT, complain a device/ browser is consuming your precious battery power or exposing another interface for attacks.

To me, MSFT changes the policy because (1) there are too many average joe who doesn't know Flash has many drawbacks (power consumption, security, etc.) and (2) there are tons of web developers who are too lazy to move away from Flash. I haven't check the blacklist in the update, but I would suggest put every website that has HTML5 version in the blacklist, so that it forces developers (and users?) to realize that there is a better implementation.

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RE[3]: Oh, the arrogance!
by moondevil on Wed 13th Mar 2013 12:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh, the arrogance!"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

When will you guys understand that HTML5 can't still beat Flash in gaming or the control it allows over video?

This is one of the major reasons to use Flash still.

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RE[4]: Oh, the arrogance!
by GraphiteCube on Wed 13th Mar 2013 15:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh, the arrogance!"
GraphiteCube Member since:
2009-04-01

When will you guys understand that HTML5 can't still beat Flash in gaming or the control it allows over video?

This is one of the major reasons to use Flash still.

That's why I said people (users) need to understand what they want and whether the technology they're using can fit their needs, instead of whining "oh what a saving face act".

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RE[3]: Oh, the arrogance!
by ze_jerkface on Wed 13th Mar 2013 15:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh, the arrogance!"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

(2) there are tons of web developers who are too lazy to move away from Flash.


The decision to use Flash isn't normally made by web developers.

It's a business decision made by a manager or director.

If web developers could make those decisions IE6/7 support would have ended ages ago.

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RE[4]: Oh, the arrogance!
by Alfman on Thu 14th Mar 2013 20:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh, the arrogance!"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

ze_jerkface,

osnews is blocking me from +1'ing you..bah!

Decisions are very often made by managers instead of the developers, I've had my share of brainless management.

Over time, as new technologies ultimately replace flash for serving ads and glitzy animated web content, those who used to complain about flash will learn that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. These annoying elements of the web won't just disappear, people will pay to have them redeveloped into the HTML5 standard where they will be harder to block and probably be just as inefficient for lower power devices.

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