Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Mar 2013 22:17 UTC
Apple Apple's Phil Shiller has been trash-talking Android in the press these past few days - just as Samsung is about to launch its Galaxy S4. "Public, preemptive slamming of a competitor is far outside Apple's PR wheelhouse; it's a dramatic shift for a company used to making news rather than reacting to it. But why is it happening?" The Verge hits the nail on the head: "Cupertino's behavior this week is yet another symptom of Samsung's stratospheric rise in the smartphone market globally, a rise that challenges Apple and has outright stifled Android competitors like HTC and Sony."
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M.Onty
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2009-10-23

The stagnation also started while Jobs was in charge. Without wanting to start a debate about innovation vs evolution, it still takes years to put a new (to that company) paradigm through research, design, development and testing before it even hits production. Yet even when Jobs was CEO, there was release after release of the same iPhone.

I agree, except with the word 'stagnation'. If Apple haven't released a new game changing product in four years time then it'll be appropriate to worry about stagnation.

if we're really honest, no company can release a totally new product every couple of years. Not even Apple can.

Exactly. Look at the following dates;
iMac 1998, iPod 2001, iPhone 2007, iPad 2010

Just how fast are they supposed to come up with these things?

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

The iMac was/is a success for Apple (meaning they make a nice profit from selling it), but it's not a huge game changer/market dominator like the iPod, iPhone and iPad were/are.

Before the iMac they had a few successes (and misses), but nothing that flew out of the shops.

So it's kind of strange people expect and demand Apple to come up with something on an almost yearly basis and if not they are doomed or lost their magic.

An Apple iWatch or iTV, should they surface from Loch Ness, aren't products I suspect that will sell in masses.

For them to continue to do well I expect they'd bolster their ecosystem by making it better and adding do it, like an iWatch or iTV.

Samsung is also starting to understand now that selling a product to a customer and then forgetting about it makes less money than getting people to join your ecosystem like Apple and Amazon do.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

It also depends a lot on the country.

In Portugal, Macs have always been bloody expensive when compared to the PC offerings.

The first time I managed to touch one, it was on the student lab of the university, where a couple of LC's were available.

They were a minority compared with the available PCs, only beating the amount of aging VT terminals and X Stations still available on the lab.

This was in the early 90's.

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

So it's kind of strange people expect and demand Apple to come up with something on an almost yearly basis and if not they are doomed or lost their magic.


Well, if you create a pattern based on only 3 data points, they should have released "the next big thing" in 2012 at the latest (6 years from iPod to iPhone; 3 years to iPad; 1.5 years to ???), and "the next next big thing" in 2013:
Exactly. Look at the following dates;
iPod 2001, iPhone 2007, iPad 2010


:)

Wait, when was the aTV released?

:D

Maybe the are on track to release "the next next big thing" this year. ;)

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I wouldn't exactly call the iPad an 'innovative' product. All it was, was a natural second path for the iPhone to take for people who wanted to run applications instead of talk. It was not much more than an iPhone with a bigger screen, typically no cellular radio, and otherwise slightly tweaked specifications.

It was an iOS-ified take on traditional portable systems of similar uses and form factors that were produced many years before Apple ever even decided to change their name and focus on non-general-purpose computers. Tablet computers have been around for a much longer time than the iPhone.

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