Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Mar 2013 17:09 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Yesterday, during the most insane launch event in the history of technology, Samsung unveiled its next big flagship, the Galaxy S4. I really couldn't care less about this new phone - another plastic phone that looks exactly like its predecessor - but the flurry of interviews with Samsung executives that followed is far more interesting. With them, Samsung has repositioned Tizen - and if you connect the dots, something interesting is starting to appear.
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RE: About apps
by KLU9 on Fri 15th Mar 2013 19:34 UTC in reply to "About apps"
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

Not having used Google Play or the alternatives, I can only go by reports.

Which seem to indicate that life without Google Play is definitely possible, the example being China, where Android usage vastly outstrips iOS, WP, BB etc but Google Play use is minimal. Already 140 million Android users there, with probable growth in the next few years of at least dozens of millions per year.

Chinese users seem to prefer competition rather than being locked into one walled garden of an official app store, be it Google Play, iTunes etc

Some articles from Tech in Asia on this:

"Dear Apple, Amazon, Google: Here’s Why Chinese Consumers Hate Your Ecosystems"
http://www.techinasia.com/apple-google-why-chinese-consumers-hate-t...

"10 Alternative Android App Stores From China"
http://www.techinasia.com/10-android-app-stores-china/

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RE[2]: About apps
by robojerk on Fri 15th Mar 2013 20:15 in reply to "RE: About apps"
robojerk Member since:
2006-01-10

Didn't Baidu (owned by Chinese gov?) fork Android awhile back?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu_Yi

I assumed (never been to China) that Baidu would be the king of the Android clones over there since they have a huge amount of influence.

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RE[3]: About apps
by KLU9 on Sat 16th Mar 2013 17:43 in reply to "RE[2]: About apps"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

afaik Baidu's not owned by the party/govt (altho it may pwned by the party/govt ;)

Their OS is apparently just a skin on Android, and not a popular one at that. Alibaba's isn't taking off either apparently.

One local outfit that is doing well with their own UI on top of Android is Xiaomi, whose phones sell like hot cakes... when they're available.

Basically there are no real local Chinese alternatives to Android yet, so much so that the Party/Govt is complaining about over-dependence on it: http://www.techinasia.com/china-miit-warns-dependent-on-android-goo...

And this is a govt with form on the issue, having pushed/forced made-in-China standards in mobile tech, video discs etc

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TD-SCDMA
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Versatile_Disc
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Blue_High-definition_Disc

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RE[2]: About apps
by Zlogic on Fri 15th Mar 2013 22:59 in reply to "RE: About apps"
Zlogic Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not familiar with the Chinese market but one would assume that heavy competition is expected because:
1) There's no official Google Play operating in China: https://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=143... (possibly because Google stopped operating in China).
2) No store can be named "official" and be popular simply because they're "default". So they have to compete in order to gain users.

I'm saying this because I once tried to switch to Windows Phone from Android and found a lot of apps I took for granted was missing, and most of it was Google services like Goggles, Maps, bookmark sync, Latitude, Talk and the Gmail client.

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RE[2]: About apps
by JAlexoid on Fri 15th Mar 2013 23:02 in reply to "RE: About apps"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Chinese users seem to prefer competition rather than being locked into one walled garden of an official app store, be it Google Play, iTunes etc

And are you saying that the fact that Google Play(and other Google services) barely works in China has no bearing on that? Google does not sell apps in China though Google play. Google search is heavily restricted. GMail connections are monitored.Barely usable is a compliment, but Google is hardly to blame...

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RE[3]: About apps
by KLU9 on Sat 16th Mar 2013 17:26 in reply to "RE[2]: About apps"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

And are you saying that the fact that Google Play(and other Google services) barely works in China has no bearing on that?

No, I'm not. But it seems the lack of people letting themselves be locked into a single "official" app store applies equally to iOS, not just Android.

But again, just going by what I've read. no personal experience. I need to ask some of my Chinese students about this.

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RE[3]: About apps
by cdude on Sat 16th Mar 2013 17:37 in reply to "RE[2]: About apps"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Google Search -> Baidu. Baidu is the number 1 search-engine in China, not Google.
GMail -> Yahoo/etc. GMail is not much used in China anyways.
Google Play -> eg Baidu app store and others: http://www.gizchina.com/2012/08/14/20-ways-to-get-free-android-apps...

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RE[2]: About apps
by pos3 on Sat 16th Mar 2013 14:59 in reply to "RE: About apps"
pos3 Member since:
2010-06-25

Android is huge in India. But nobody would buy a mobile without Play Store.Cheap Chinese made mobiles/tablets all come with play store.

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