Linked by KLU9 on Mon 18th Mar 2013 09:22 UTC
Apple Every year on World Consumer Rights Day (March 15), government-controlled China Central Television (CCTV) broadcasts a special report (in Chinese) damning companies for abusing Chinese consumers. This year the targets included Apple. Apple was accused of giving Chinese consumers worse service than customers in other countries, specifically of giving them replacements that included cases from their old phone, while customers in the UK would get a 100% new product.
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RE: Pricing in China
by MOS6510 on Mon 18th Mar 2013 10:41 UTC in reply to "Pricing in China"
MOS6510
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2011-05-12

I'm not doubting what you wrote, but I do think people at Foxconn and similar companies have pretty crappy jobs and don't get very paid very well while Apple has piles of money in the bank collecting dust.

The world would be a happier place if work conditions improved and the workers could benefit from Apple's success.

BTW it's not just Apple, it's also other companies that have no problem with Chinese companies exploiting Chinese people.

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RE[2]: Pricing in China
by Priest on Mon 18th Mar 2013 11:31 in reply to "RE: Pricing in China"
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2006-05-12

Foxconn is considered one of the best companies to work for in China. It is a 40 - 48 hour week of factory work. Hundreds of people show up every day to apply for jobs.

Every single job I have ever worked in the US was over a 40 hour week. At times in the military I worked close to 120 hours a week doing work that was demanding for like $20k/year. I've worked numerous jobs where 80+ work weeks were not uncommon.

I know for a fact that many of the largest companies in the united states abuse "salary exempt" status of workers to circumvent labor laws for overtime. The suit brought against EA games by wives of their workers is a great example of that.

There is always some deadline or temporary constraint that serves as a carrot on a stick. Americans on average work as many or more hours than just about any country in the world with South Korea being the one real exception.

Americans make significantly more than workers in China but it's a totally different economy. There are several major cities/employment centers in the US where 3 bedroom houses are over $500,000 + taxes etc.

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RE[3]: Pricing in China
by ilovebeer on Mon 18th Mar 2013 16:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Pricing in China"
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2011-08-08

Foxconn is considered one of the best companies to work for in China. It is a 40 - 48 hour week of factory work. Hundreds of people show up every day to apply for jobs.


Most of China is undeveloped and in poverty. All those people are showing up to apply because they're one of the biggest employers, not because they're one of the best companies to work for. Remember, Foxconn is also the place where there have been multiple suicides from workers due to work conditions. So many in fact that they've installed nets around the buildings to deter people from jumping.

It's no secret that life working at Foxconn is horrible. At least that's what the people who actually work there think. You're free to think whatever you want.

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RE[2]: Pricing in China
by Vinegar Joe on Mon 18th Mar 2013 11:51 in reply to "RE: Pricing in China"
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2006-08-16

"I do think people at Foxconn and similar companies have pretty crappy jobs...."

I don't think you have any idea what a "crappy job" is. I suggest you work construction, outdoors, when the temperature is around 0 degrees F and the wind blowing 15 miles per hour.

Edited 2013-03-18 11:53 UTC

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RE[3]: Pricing in China
by MOS6510 on Mon 18th Mar 2013 11:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Pricing in China"
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2011-05-12

Yes, let's define the worst job in the world ever and state that every other job is less worse and thus a fine or even excellent one.

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RE[3]: Pricing in China
by re_re on Tue 19th Mar 2013 13:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Pricing in China"
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2005-07-06

Lol, I have worked in architectural sheetmetal for most of my adult life. in WI, central MN, ND, SD ....... I know about cold and it sucks when it drops bellow zero, but it's not crappy work. I love it.

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RE[3]: Pricing in China
by oiaohm on Thu 21st Mar 2013 01:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Pricing in China"
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2009-05-30

"I do think people at Foxconn and similar companies have pretty crappy jobs...."

I don't think you have any idea what a "crappy job" is. I suggest you work construction, outdoors, when the temperature is around 0 degrees F and the wind blowing 15 miles per hour.


Really I would say some of the china factories beat that hands down. At least if you don't die on the job your children are not deformed.

Some of china factories have a very bad record with personal safety gear usage and operational extraction systems and .... Yes there are a lot of china factories that if you applied USA or Australia workplace health and safety would not be allowed to operate.

Yes worst work places are workplaces without any workplace health and safety and its a complete fluke that you get to come home each night. I would say the last port of big ships where humans are cutting the ships apart without any safety gear and many each year die is the worst job on earth. You have better chances of survival on most battle fields on earth than working there.

Some of china factories are not that far behind because toxic chemical exposure and its long term effects.

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