Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Mar 2013 16:49 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "The Minuum keyboard, through its simplicity, improves your touchscreen typing. Existing keyboards leave you barely enough screen to interact with your apps, and you can't enjoy typing on them. Minuum eliminates the visual clutter of archaic mobile keyboards by adapting the keyboard to a single dimension." You have to watch the video. This is yet another example of a strength of more open platforms - like Android - that often gets overlooked: the ability to experiment with core aspects of the operating system. Whenever someone says there are no Android-exclusive applications, they conveniently overlook things like this. No other platform has stuff like this, and I certainly miss this experimentation on my 8X.
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RE: no no no
by KLU9 on Mon 18th Mar 2013 17:32 UTC in reply to "no no no"
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

I've seen glowing praise for those IBM-style clicky keyboards over the years, and even considered getting one (especially after getting RSI from my HP ultrabook's chiclet keyboard).

But my work is based on audio-conferencing: I couldn't have other people hearing all that clicking while we're trying to speak.

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RE[2]: no no no
by evert on Mon 18th Mar 2013 17:37 in reply to "RE: no no no"
evert Member since:
2005-07-06

They also sell a less noisy model "S" (silent?) for open workspaces.

Oh, and I also like some gaming keyboards from Logitech, they are silent too.

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RE[3]: no no no
by gan17 on Tue 19th Mar 2013 06:25 in reply to "RE[2]: no no no"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

They also sell a less noisy model "S" (silent?) for open workspaces.

The "S" stands for soft. I got myself a Professional S model late last year and while not completely silent, they're much quieter than most keyboards I've used, mechanical or otherwise.

Too bad the "Linux Penguin" key (to replace the Windows logo key) offered by DasKeyboard isn't compatible with S models, though it'd still be pointless for me even if they did, since I run OpenBSD not Linux.

I want a key that says "Mod 4" ;)

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RE[2]: no no no
by ssokolow on Mon 18th Mar 2013 18:52 in reply to "RE: no no no"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

I've seen glowing praise for those IBM-style clicky keyboards over the years, and even considered getting one (especially after getting RSI from my HP ultrabook's chiclet keyboard).

But my work is based on audio-conferencing: I couldn't have other people hearing all that clicking while we're trying to speak.


Mechanical switches don't need to bottom out to register and even the "clicky" Cherry MX Blue switches are quieter than the sound of the quietest membrane keys I've ever found.

(With membrane keyboards, you have to bottom out the keys to ensure they register, which means slamming them into the backboard and wasting energy making noise. With mechanical switches, they register at about half-press by design and you can feel (tactile) and/or hear (clicky) most types.)

Furthermore, some keyboards have the option to come with O rings on the key stems so you don't bottom them out and make noise and you can easily retrofit any Cherry MX-series switch with an O ring. (Just buy a $3 keycap puller or take a loop of dental floss if you're desperate, pull straight up on the keycap, slide the ring onto the circular stem on underside of the key (not the +-shaped stem it mates with on the switch), and then replace the keycap and press all the way down to seat the ring)

As a comparison, I'd say that when I type softly enough to avoid bottoming out my Cherry MX Blues, it sounds to be about as loud as scrunching up a plastic shopping bag. (I don't currently use O rings, hence the "when I type softly enough".)

Here's a good starter guide to all the details about choosing a keyboard and how various mechanical boards stack up:

http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

(I'm using a Rosewill RK-9000I which, unlike that page's claim about the normal RK-9000, does have laser-etched labels on the keycaps)

This Overclock.net post goes into more detail about which O rings to use, providing links to two sellers... though McMaster-Carr only accepts non-U.S. orders from established clients:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1090041/canabalized-rosewill-for-filco-s...

Edited 2013-03-18 18:59 UTC

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RE[2]: no no no
by judgen on Mon 18th Mar 2013 19:40 in reply to "RE: no no no"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

I am a huge fan of my 1984 IBM M-series keyboards and i use them almost exclusively. But i agree they can be rather noisy, so sometimes when i need it to be silent but still have that great mechanical feel without any clicking at all i use the ThermalTake Meka full size keyboard.
It is really nice, and just as the M-series it has a full numpad and no annoying windows keys that messes up my typeflow (i know it is just something to get use to, but as i have not, i prefer keyboards without them.)
Also a nice feature is ofcourse the built in USB2.0 hub and the size and weight is just perfect. Beware though, if you use pgUp or pgDn keys, there are none of those either on the Meka, just as there are no "multimedia" keys on any of my keyboards.

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RE[3]: no no no
by ssokolow on Mon 18th Mar 2013 19:46 in reply to "RE[2]: no no no"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Interesting. I bought the Rosewill RK-9000I with Cherry MX Blues rather than a buckling spring keyboard specifically because I wanted Windows keys.

(Model Ms don't have them and Unicomp wanted $50 to ship a $70 keyboard to Canada)

I run Linux and, because no application uses it, my windows key is the basis of every global keyboard shortcut I use (including ones traditionally relegated to media keys like Win+Pause, which toggles play/pause on my media player regardless of focus)

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RE[3]: no no no
by Bobthearch on Tue 19th Mar 2013 00:30 in reply to "RE[2]: no no no"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

I am a huge fan of my 1984 IBM M-series keyboards and i use them almost exclusively. But i agree they can be rather noisy...


My favorites are the KeyTronic keyboards that I believe are made by the same company as the old Dell Quiet Key. Good tactile feedback and quick spring action, but without the loud clacking of the famous IBMs. And the Keytronics are easy to find, cost about $10 each, and last forever.

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RE[2]: no no no
by KLU9 on Tue 19th Mar 2013 10:54 in reply to "RE: no no no"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

Thanks to everyone for all the info on keyboards. Saved!

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