Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Mar 2013 15:51 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Thorsten Heins, BlackBerry's CEO: "Apple did a fantastic job in bringing touch devices to market ... They did a fantastic job with the user interface, they are a design icon. There is a reason why they were so successful, and we actually have to admit this and respect that. History repeats itself again I guess ... the rate of innovation is so high in our industry that if you don't innovate at that speed you can be replaced pretty quickly. The user interface on the iPhone, with all due respect for what this invention was all about is now five years old." Ironic, perhaps, that this comes from a BlackBerry CEO, but that doesn't make him wrong - although I'm sure the usual suspects will claim that it does.
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RE: Not an User
by cdude on Mon 18th Mar 2013 18:41 UTC in reply to "Not an User"
cdude
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2008-09-21

And Wine comes to Android, Android compatibility to Windows, so what? A sign both are weak or that compatibility, being able to run foreign apps is demanded by, you know, customers?
BB10 btw comes also with Qt, with HTML5 and AIR and isn't the only platform there either. Compatibility is great. So whats your motivation to complain they didn't NIH like eg Microsoft did with incompatible Metro x86/RT/WP and prevent active to be compatible?

Edited 2013-03-18 18:42 UTC

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RE[2]: Not an User
by Nelson on Mon 18th Mar 2013 21:06 in reply to "RE: Not an User"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

And Wine comes to Android, Android compatibility to Windows, so what? A sign both are weak or that compatibility, being able to run foreign apps is demanded by, you know, customers?
BB10 btw comes also with Qt, with HTML5 and AIR and isn't the only platform there either. Compatibility is great. So whats your motivation to complain they didn't NIH like eg Microsoft did with incompatible Metro x86/RT/WP and prevent active to be compatible?


HTML5 as an app platform is floundering. It is going nowhere. No one is adopting it. The few that have are dumping it. Facebook has called it its biggest strategic mistake.

Its simple for Facebook to make such a mistake, even Microsoft, but when you're betting the entire company of a small start up, which has likely direct investment from employees *and* is their livelihood, then such discussion is dangerous.

Really? AIR? Please. No. Just stop. I'm sure you'd list every acronym BB put on their developer portal if it let you make a longer bullet list. Are you aware that the technologies you're spouting off about (save for Qt) are complete and utter garbage?

The Android compatibility layer is so terrible that I've heard some wish it was never even there.

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RE[3]: Not an User
by cdude on Mon 18th Mar 2013 22:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Not an User"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

We have at least ChromeOS and FirefoxOS which are HTML5 only. We have Tizen and WP which put focus on HTML5 integration to make them first-level citizen. Android with Google and iOS with Apple are the two major WebKit contributors. So, whatever your personal stand is (and I agree there about the suck-level compared to better alternates like Qt) being compatible and supporting HTML5 additionally can't harm.

AIR, well. AIR is AIR. As long as I not have to use it I not have a problem with it. Its available for eg Android and now also for Blackberry too. I am sure some like it and I like to not being forced to use it.

Qt is just very good. I applaud them for adding Qt as first-level option like some AIR or HTML5 devs may applaud them for adding AIR/HTML5 support. Or even for keeping Java ME in and on or supporting Android API's and apps.

Point is: Options. Blackberry didn't only add one exclusive thing, like Microsoft did (as horrible implementation incompatible to there other offerings), but support a wide range of existing technologies. That's choice. Important isn't that you may hate one of the choices but that at least one of them is a good choice for you.

Edited 2013-03-18 23:09 UTC

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