Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Mar 2013 16:49 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "The Minuum keyboard, through its simplicity, improves your touchscreen typing. Existing keyboards leave you barely enough screen to interact with your apps, and you can't enjoy typing on them. Minuum eliminates the visual clutter of archaic mobile keyboards by adapting the keyboard to a single dimension." You have to watch the video. This is yet another example of a strength of more open platforms - like Android - that often gets overlooked: the ability to experiment with core aspects of the operating system. Whenever someone says there are no Android-exclusive applications, they conveniently overlook things like this. No other platform has stuff like this, and I certainly miss this experimentation on my 8X.
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RE: Oooh, yay...
by ssokolow on Mon 18th Mar 2013 21:04 UTC in reply to "Oooh, yay..."
ssokolow
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2010-01-21

Actually, I don't have the link handy, but I read an interesting study about how Dvorak layouts don't actually improve your performance over QWERTY ones.

It's probably one of the ones referenced in the "Controversy" section of the "Dvorak Simplified Keyboard" Wikipedia article but I don't have time to re-locate it right now.

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RE[2]: Oooh, yay...
by UltraZelda64 on Mon 18th Mar 2013 21:31 in reply to "RE: Oooh, yay..."
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2006-12-05

There is plenty of controversy over the layout, mostly baseless. As a user of the layout and previously a QWERTY user my entire life, I can confidently call bullshit on the vast majority of them. The Dvorak layout really is a pleasure to type on.

Three or four weeks in you get an optimistic glimpse of what's to come. By a month and a half you're really starting to get a feel for it. By two or two and a half months, you'll never want to go back.

The efficiency gained by the greatly reduced workload of the fingers is real. The difference can be felt in the form of a reduction or even complete elimination of hand/wrist/arm fatigue and/or pain. You feel as if you're typing slower than you actually are because your hands aren't flying all over the place, yet the speeds are comparable.

I still need some practice on it, I have only been using it since early December and had to abruptly stop due to real life getting in the way earlier this month. I had already reached my old average for shorter bursts by that time and could tell there was plenty of improvement to be made. That's about three months, vs. well over a decade I've been touchtyping QWERTY.

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RE[3]: Oooh, yay...
by No it isnt on Mon 18th Mar 2013 22:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Oooh, yay..."
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2005-11-14

I'm sure I've heard the exact same argument made before, but then in favour of homeopathy. Your confident call of bullshit is nothing but anecdotal ... well, calling it evidence would be an exaggeration, as you only have your subjective experience with no objective metrics. But anecdote it is.

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RE[3]: Oooh, yay...
by ssokolow on Mon 18th Mar 2013 22:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Oooh, yay..."
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Hmm. Maybe something for me to consider experimenting with, then, if/when I can ever spare time to temporarily drop my typing speed. I have noticed it taking effort to limit my use of my wrists in typing due to the awkward distances from home row for many common keys.

Looking at the layout diagram on Wikipedia, it looks easy to set up using nothing more than a keycap puller and the OS keyboard layout dialog.

Edited 2013-03-18 22:13 UTC

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RE[3]: Oooh, yay...
by Lobotomik on Tue 19th Mar 2013 14:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Oooh, yay..."
Lobotomik Member since:
2006-01-03

Are they good only for English, or are they as good in any language? Lots of people need to type regularly in two or more languages: is this OK on a Dvorak layout?

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RE[2]: Oooh, yay...
by Dave_K on Tue 19th Mar 2013 18:05 in reply to "RE: Oooh, yay..."
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2005-11-16

Actually, I don't have the link handy, but I read an interesting study about how Dvorak layouts don't actually improve your performance over QWERTY ones.


From what I remember, their conclusions were based on rapid and intensive retraining of experienced QWERTY typists. It showed that it took them considerable time and effort just to regain their previous QWERTY typing speed.

That's evidence that it probably isn't worthwhile for companies to retrain all their staff on Dvorak, but isn't exactly a fair comparison of the potential performance of the two layouts. For that they'd need to train people from scratch, with equal time spent on QWERTY and Dvorak.

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