Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Mar 2013 15:51 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Thorsten Heins, BlackBerry's CEO: "Apple did a fantastic job in bringing touch devices to market ... They did a fantastic job with the user interface, they are a design icon. There is a reason why they were so successful, and we actually have to admit this and respect that. History repeats itself again I guess ... the rate of innovation is so high in our industry that if you don't innovate at that speed you can be replaced pretty quickly. The user interface on the iPhone, with all due respect for what this invention was all about is now five years old." Ironic, perhaps, that this comes from a BlackBerry CEO, but that doesn't make him wrong - although I'm sure the usual suspects will claim that it does.
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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Nelson on Tue 19th Mar 2013 02:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Nelson
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That was Apple with Jobs. Past. That's the central point. Can they keep on to invent, to build new products opposed to products they invented and build before with Jobs?


I'm sure you're aware that a majority (read: almost all) of the pending and current litigation was initiated under Steve Jobs, right?

Steve Jobs is Mr. Thermonuclear, not Mr. Cook.


Having lots of money on bank may keep you running for a while but it doesn't automatically give you a place among the top players in sold products in the future. Just see what happened with IBM or what happens now with Microsoft and both of them where strong monopolists unlike Apple. Things can change and they can change fast.


There's no sign of Apple slowing down, at their current trajectory they can continue to essentially print money like this for another decade or two.

Who cares though? I only mentioned their cash on hand to illustrate that Apple isn't strapped for money not now or in the medium term. They have a lot of cash.


But that's the central question. Can they successful innovate without Jobs? We only see patent-wars innovations, no new product innovations for a longer time now while competition is accelerating and improving there products.


I do not think that anyone has announced anything innovative on the scale of Apple with the iPhone or with the iPad. Nobody. Not Google, not Microsoft, not anyone. (Cue some idiot replying about a Tablet from 2001, or some obscure phone that Samsung made, who the hell cares)

Maybe Google can execute their Glasses thing really well, and that certainly is a game changing, Appleesque product, but it remains to be seen how they maneuver it to market.


Customers don't buy your law-suites, they buy your products. Apple seems to beet on the wrong thing.


Yes, Apple has ceased its work on everything announced and unannounced and has become a patent troll. Is this really how your mind works?

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 19th Mar 2013 05:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
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They aren't moving forward - i.e. they are stagnating. That was the point. In the industry where completion is really strong it's very strange and either Apple are too arrogant and think that they'll forever have a strong market share, or they simply don't care about long term developments (like some money hungry managers do, attempting to rip things off in short term, disregarding any long term benefits for the company).

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by Nelson on Tue 19th Mar 2013 06:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Who else is really innovating in a groundbreaking manner?
Certainly not Samsung. Wasting GPU power by shoving 440 pixels into a display the size of a phone isn't innovation. Shoving eight power hungry cores into an OS that shouldn't need it isn't innovation.

To Samsung's credit, the only thing I've seen them do that should made others envious is how they figured out the secret sauce to stylus based phones right under from everyone else's noses. I sincerely feel Samsung accidentally became successful with the Galaxy Note.

Everyone talks about how fast and innovative this sector is, I agree about fast, but the innovative part is still up in the air for me when it comes to OS vendors.

Google Now and Siri are interesting in that they approach the same problem with a different twist, but that's about _all_ that comes to mind when I think innovation that has happened.

There really has been no industry shaking, segment defining events since the iPad. I hate Apple, but I think its foolish to disregard all that they do.

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