Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Mar 2013 15:51 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Thorsten Heins, BlackBerry's CEO: "Apple did a fantastic job in bringing touch devices to market ... They did a fantastic job with the user interface, they are a design icon. There is a reason why they were so successful, and we actually have to admit this and respect that. History repeats itself again I guess ... the rate of innovation is so high in our industry that if you don't innovate at that speed you can be replaced pretty quickly. The user interface on the iPhone, with all due respect for what this invention was all about is now five years old." Ironic, perhaps, that this comes from a BlackBerry CEO, but that doesn't make him wrong - although I'm sure the usual suspects will claim that it does.
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RE[3]: He's right but
by unclefester on Tue 19th Mar 2013 06:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: He's right but"
unclefester
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The only time Apple has ever suceeded is when the opposition has lost focus. As soon as other companies regain their focus Apple slowly degenerates to being a dismal failure.

Jobs was not a genius. He was a typical autistic technocrat - inflexible, unimaginative, autocratic and and obsessed with trivial details.

All Apples recent "innovations" including the iPad are nothing more than balatantly obvious iterations of the original iPhone.

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RE[4]: He's right but
by Nelson on Tue 19th Mar 2013 07:01 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right but"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Apple created the modern smartphone market.
Apple created the modern tablet market.

Created. Not just did what the next guy was doing. They created and defined these segments. They showed the competition how to design, market, package, and sell their products to end users.

Its telling that the whole of Android (including the shitload of Android dumb-phones people like to use to inflate marketshare) has trouble going up against a handful of iPhone models.

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RE[5]: He's right but
by unclefester on Tue 19th Mar 2013 08:25 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right but"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Apple created the modern smartphone market.
Apple created the modern tablet market.


Complete and utter bullshit.

Apple is just another a consumer products company - not much different to Dyson (vacuum cleaners). Dyson and Jobs both took existing products, added a bit of polish and told outrageous lies to sell millions of suckers their overpriced crap.

The iPad is just a big iPhone. The iPod touch is just an iPhone that can't make calls.

Without Steve around to spin his web of lies the public can now see how ordinary Apple products really are. That is why Apple Inc has lost 40% in value in less than a year.

*James Dyson is an even bigger bullshitter than Steve Dobs was. Dyson simply uses very familiar (to engineers) technology, puts it in a stylish package and gives it an imaginative name.

-The cyclone dust extractor was very widely used in industry for nearly 90 years before Dyson applied it to vacuum cleaners.

-The Dyson 'bladeless' fans has a conventional fan in the base.

-Dyson products consistently rate below much cheaper products for usability and reliability in independent tests.

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RE[4]: He's right but
by Tony Swash on Tue 19th Mar 2013 10:47 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right but"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

The only time Apple has ever suceeded is when the opposition has lost focus. As soon as other companies regain their focus Apple slowly degenerates to being a dismal failure.


Just like the iPod and MP3 players?

Jobs was not a genius. He was a typical autistic technocrat - inflexible, unimaginative, autocratic and and obsessed with trivial details.


It turned out that those trivial details resonate deeply with the buying public whether you think they are important or not. Frankly the majority of tech products sold today, as always, are badly designed, ugly and depressingly often shoddy. It is painfully obvious to most consumers that most tech companies don't really care about their products and they certainly don't care about their customer much, as a few minutes of interaction with their customer support services would show. Is it that surprising that a company like Apple that decided to concentrate on selling a few well made and well designed products delivered with very high levels of customer support and service attracts large numbers of customer?

All Apples recent "innovations" including the iPad are nothing more than balatantly obvious iterations of the original iPhone.


As are almost all mobile devices. It was three years between the iPhone and the iPad and yet not one competitor thought of making an iPad before Apple. It's easy to see the obvious in hindsight, far harder to see it going forward.

As long as Apple's success is seen as an anomaly, and a probably short lived one at that, then the real reasons for Apple's success (which are very interesting by the way) will remain obscured and an understanding of the real dynamics of the tech markets will remain elusive,

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