Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Mar 2013 11:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "With the Samsung Galaxy S4 presumably coming soon, many are excited about the possibility of running a more stock Android-based experience, like CyanogenMod, on the hardware. It looks like that's going to be a slower transition than many were hoping, as the current Samsung CM maintainers have said that they have no plans to support the device." If you like custom ROMs, don't buy Samsung. As simple as that.
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Samsung Good
by Yagami on Tue 19th Mar 2013 19:38 UTC
Yagami
Member since:
2006-07-15

Funny , since i own a samsung i9000 ( galaxy S ) and a nexus 7 tablet.

And i have better and more cyanogenmod based roms for the samsung i9000 than for the nexus 7 tablet.

Samsung Galaxy S is one of the best devices to flash. And it runs great, even for its age.

Its kinda stupid to not recommend Samsung when Htc / Sony / etc are far worse. Only recent ( 1 year i think ) Htc started to open its bootloaders. Sony ... well , i had a sony arc s ... gave it away ... stupid locked bootloaders.

On samsung ... rooting , flashing , unlocking is super easy ( at least on my galaxy s )

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RE: Samsung Good
by _txf_ on Tue 19th Mar 2013 21:06 in reply to "Samsung Good"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Its kinda stupid to not recommend Samsung when Htc / Sony / etc are far worse. Only recent ( 1 year i think ) Htc started to open its bootloaders. Sony ... well , i had a sony arc s ... gave it away ... stupid locked bootloaders.


Actually Sony is quite a lot better now. They even provide AOSP compatible binary blobs. Not the best situation, but far better than others...

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RE[2]: Samsung Good
by Yagami on Wed 20th Mar 2013 10:15 in reply to "RE: Samsung Good"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

"Its kinda stupid to not recommend Samsung when Htc / Sony / etc are far worse. Only recent ( 1 year i think ) Htc started to open its bootloaders. Sony ... well , i had a sony arc s ... gave it away ... stupid locked bootloaders.


Actually Sony is quite a lot better now. They even provide AOSP compatible binary blobs. Not the best situation, but far better than others...
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Yes , much much better than those bad companies that actually submit filesystems to the kernel tree ....

!!! Bad Samsung , dont submit open source , you evil company !!!!

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RE: Samsung Good
by phoenix on Tue 19th Mar 2013 21:20 in reply to "Samsung Good"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Original Galaxy S: great for running/developing custom ROMs.

Some Galaxy S2 models: great for running/dev custom ROMs.
Other Galaxy S2 models: crap for custom ROMs

Some Galaxy S3 models: great for running/dev custom ROMs.
Other Galaxy S3 models: crap for custom ROMs

See the pattern yet?

If the Galaxy device uses a Qualcomm SoC, then it's fairly easy to get/dev ROMs for it. Some things may not work, but the basics are there.

If the Galaxy device uses a Samsung SoC, good luck getting drivers for it.

Oh, and Sony provides all the tools you need to unlock the bootloader. There's even a simple website with all the info, straight from Sony. Granted, the carrier has the option of removing support for easy-unlocking of the bootloader. But there's even methods to get around that, all nicely documented.

Surprisingly, Sony has become very custom ROM developer-friendly since the release of the 2011 Xperia phones.

2012 LG phones are also surprisingly easy to develop for. In fact, there's even a free (or $1 donation) app in the Play store to unlock the bootloader on the Optimus G (Freegee app). Does it get any easier than that? ;)

Edited 2013-03-19 21:23 UTC

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RE[2]: Samsung Good
by static666 on Tue 19th Mar 2013 22:07 in reply to "RE: Samsung Good"
static666 Member since:
2006-06-09

IMHO.

Sony, LG, other OEMs, utilizing standard components, providing a rehash of AOSP on one side, and Samsung, having developed their own SoC, putting much effort into TouchWiz, on the other. HTC is somewhere in the middle, providing heavy software customizations while staying dev friendly.

Being a CM user, I still can understand why they may be reluctant to embrace alternative ROMs to the fullest, especially when it comes to latest developments and trying to protect IP of those SoCs. But of course there are many little things they can easily do, like opening the bootloader or releasing glue code together with binary blobs.

I do believe the job of supporting S4 is not impossible in the current or even worse state of affairs, but the amount of reverse-engineering and overall complexity may be quite higher than current average maintainer of Samsung CM ports would be happy to handle. Hence we get the fallout of easy-mode devs who expect a fresh 600-page datasheet and code examples for just about everything.

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RE[2]: Samsung Good
by Yagami on Wed 20th Mar 2013 10:09 in reply to "RE: Samsung Good"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

[quote] Oh, and Sony provides all the tools you need to unlock the bootloader. There's even a simple website with all the info, straight from Sony. Granted, the carrier has the option of removing support for easy-unlocking of the bootloader. But there's even methods to get around that, all nicely documented. [/quote]

Bull... that website is only for unlocked phones. If you have a carrier locked phone, you are out of luck. Only method is paying for wotan server IF YOUR LUCKY and have a xperia arc s before february last year. If your phone if after that , not even wotan or setools can unlock it.


But hey, its easier to spread bullshit and not actually know what you are talking about, right ?

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RE[2]: Samsung Good
by Yagami on Wed 20th Mar 2013 10:14 in reply to "RE: Samsung Good"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

[quote] 2012 LG phones are also surprisingly easy to develop for. In fact, there's even a free (or $1 donation) app in the Play store to unlock the bootloader on the Optimus G (Freegee app). Does it get any easier than that? ;) [/quote]

Yes .... tools on playstore for Samsungs to unlock and tools for bootloader unlock and carrier unlock.

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