Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Mar 2013 22:32 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Windows "Microsoft today announced via its website the general availability of the Windows Embedded 8 family of operating systems. Extending Windows 8 technologies to a spectrum of edge devices, Windows Embedded 8 helps enterprises capitalize on the Internet of Things with the platform to capture, analyze and act on valuable data across IT infrastructures." So, this is NT-based, and not CE-based, right? Even though I'm currently researching and writing about Psion and Symbian, I'm dreading the day I have to sort through the mess that is Microsoft's mobile and embedded systems. Just check the page for Windows Embedded 8, and look at those names. The heck?
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RE: Disappointed
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 20th Mar 2013 23:08 UTC in reply to "Disappointed"
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, what - the - heck? Is that Microsoft's way of saying " Just use something else and leave us alone"?

Or is it just a protection from a third party taking windows 8 embedded for arm and creating a decent full windows 8 tablet that includes a fully functional desktop interface? There used to be cheap-o arm based laptops that ran windows CE skinned to look like windows xp. Maybe this is there way of preventing more confusion than there already is?

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RE[2]: Disappointed
by robojerk on Wed 20th Mar 2013 23:28 in reply to "RE: Disappointed"
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2006-01-10

I don't think how there could be confusion for "embedded" customers. How often do you see embedded PC's at Best Buy, Frys, etc. None. embedded customers are usually IT people. I think if a customer expecting a full blown version of Windows bought an embedded version, they'd probably figure out they messed up pretty quick, I can't even install Adobe Reader XI on a Windows 7 Embedded OS without it complaining.

We're going to be deploying more thin clients here at my work. If they were going to release an ARM based version of embedded so I could run Vmware View, RDP, Citrix, or just browse the web I would definitely be interested (as long as the client I needed supported ARM).. Cheaper hardware, less energy, less heat.

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RE[3]: Disappointed
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 21st Mar 2013 14:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointed"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

How often do you see embedded PC's at Best Buy, Frys, etc.



Rarely. But I have seen them. Usually they're more often found at place like menards or farm and fleet or other places that no one sane person would buy computers from.

Its true that a savy person would figure out quickly that it wasn't the genuine article, but most people aren't that savy. There is already enough confusion between windows RT and windows 8. Microsoft definitely wouldn't want more.

Embedded users would want arm, Microsoft has a windows 8 version that works on arm. So why wouldn't they do it? Its a bit of a mystery to me.

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RE[2]: Disappointed
by TechGeek on Thu 21st Mar 2013 03:55 in reply to "RE: Disappointed"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Microsoft doesn't want to compete in the cheap space. And really, there is no amount they can charge that will beat free, so why bother? I have no idea why anyone would use this over Linux. Chances are its artificially crippled so as not to displace any other products, much like their starter or home editions. Just a waste of time.

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RE[3]: Disappointed
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 21st Mar 2013 15:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointed"
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2006-07-14

The reason to use Windows embedded, is that you don't need as highly skilled developers for simple "embedded" projects. You end up using a Visual Studio for development, and you have all the drivers already written for you. So if you are doing low volume high margin devices, windows embedded can make a lot of sense. At least, that was my focus when evaluating it.

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