Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd Mar 2013 09:56 UTC
In the News If you don't live in the US, this is a pretty common source of irritation: US companies charging crazy markups on products sold in Europe, Asia, Australia, South America, and the rest of the world. The Australian government has had enough of this practice, and started an inquiry into the matter. Yesterday (or today? Timezones confuse me) Apple, Microsoft, and Adobe had to answer questions in a public hearing.
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Chrispynutt
Member since:
2012-03-14

I have to agree, although it sounds like everyone is charging more.

I would love for Adobe to get some competition. If only to get them to up their game.

Isn't very helpful when they are allowed to buy their competitors like Macromedia (Dreamweaver & Freehand). Having said that Corel seems to be where Adobe competitor products go to die. How many Photoshop competitors have they hoovered up over the years.

I miss the late 90s when you had Corel, Adobe, Macromedia, Metacreations, Jasc, Ulead etc all pulling in different directions coming up with ideas.

I have Photoshop CS6 and its the best Photoshop has been in ages, but Adobe barely tests their software. I have to run half of CS6 in admin mode just to get it to run. A good direct competitor could push them.

Maybe we need open 'source' formats as well as 'output' formats like PNG and SVG. A vector, bitmap and DTP or maybe some hybrid format.

Fireworks PNG at least downgrades, but that's not a truly universal format.

My wishlist would be:
- Non-destructive effects
- Embeding of images or nesting of documents
- Embeding of fonts where license allows

Edited 2013-03-22 15:36 UTC

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tanzam75 Member since:
2011-05-19

I wish it weren't so, but I don't see how anyone could successfully take on Adobe directly, now that they have a monopoly.

It'd be like writing a clone of Microsoft Office. There are lots of Office competitors, but none can break out of a niche.

I have Photoshop CS6 and its the best Photoshop has been in ages, but Adobe barely tests their software. I have to run half of CS6 in admin mode just to get it to run. A good direct competitor could push them.


Most of the Adobe developers seem to run Macs. They do test on Windows, but this will never be as good as having your developers running on Windows everyday. That's the only way for them to get annoyed by all the bugs in the Windows version of Creative Suite applications, and put a greater priority on fixing them.

Edited 2013-03-22 18:04 UTC

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Chrispynutt Member since:
2012-03-14

Fair point, but it doesn't excuse it, they charge more than enough.

All that said I have seen Quark go from number one in DTP to has been. It has happened once, it can happen again.

My guess is that instead of making something like an Adobe app, you need to make something that is just plain good and has it's own vision.

Illustrator works, but its interface is backwards, you have to do lots of little dances just to make it do some things you could do in Freehand in five minutes.

There are plenty of chinks in Adobe's armour, you just can't win by being a me too.

Edited 2013-03-23 15:06 UTC

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

There's always GIMP's working format, XCF. I'm not sure if it's a defined standard, but it could easily be submitted as one.

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