Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd Mar 2013 14:20 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu This could potentially be quite big for Ubuntu and Linux in general. Canonical and the Chinese government have announced a collaboration to build a version of Ubuntu specifically for the Chinese market, which will become the reference architecture for standard operating systems in the country.
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RE: Moral issues
by ricegf on Sat 23rd Mar 2013 14:54 UTC in reply to "Moral issues"
ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

Can you point me to the forums where "people are angry at Canonical for this"?

I see no comments on Ubuntu forums, two generally supportive comments on OmgUbuntu, nothing on Planet Ubuntu, @Ubuntu's tweet has 18 retweets and a fav and all but one comment positive, and the CEO's (@silbs) tweet has 11 retweets and 5 favourites and no comments.

Where should I be looking for this angry mob, exactly?

BTW, I run virtually the same apps on my Windows and SUSE boxes at work and my Ubuntu box at home. Writing cross-platform is freaking trivial - I'd personally recommend Qt and Python, but the list of quality options is far too long to provide here.

When a developer writes for a specific platform, it's because she wants to wring the absolute best experience for that platform. If you want multi-platform, use a somewhat more generic competitor that also supports Windows (ahem).

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RE[2]: Moral issues
by 3rdalbum on Sun 24th Mar 2013 07:52 in reply to "RE: Moral issues"
3rdalbum Member since:
2008-05-26

Can you point me to the forums where "people are angry at Canonical for this"?

I see no comments on Ubuntu forums, two generally supportive comments on OmgUbuntu, nothing on Planet Ubuntu, @Ubuntu's tweet has 18 retweets and a fav and all but one comment positive, and the CEO's (@silbs) tweet has 11 retweets and 5 favourites and no comments.

Where should I be looking for this angry mob, exactly?


Two comments in opposition on Ubuntu Forums were "jailed", mine was one of them. I've posted a new item at the end of the thread, hopefully it will stay there.

What I find utterly unbelievable is that the angry mobs come out in force when Ubuntu sends search queries to Amazon, but not when it sends search queries to a Chinese video sharing site. The angry mobs come out when Ubuntu writes a new display server, but not when Canonical jumps into bed with the Chinese government. This China deal has the potential for much bigger privacy violations - and not just in China - than any US shopping site can cause.

I like Unity, so I think I'm moving to Linux Mint where presumably I can still install Unity. I know Mint's founder is anti-Israel and doesn't want anyone to use his distro unless they share his political opinions, but I figure he's less of a threat to me than Ubuntu.

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RE[3]: Moral issues
by nej_simon on Sun 24th Mar 2013 10:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Moral issues"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

What I find utterly unbelievable is that the angry mobs come out in force when Ubuntu sends search queries to Amazon, but not when it sends search queries to a Chinese video sharing site. The angry mobs come out when Ubuntu writes a new display server, but not when Canonical jumps into bed with the Chinese government. This China deal has the potential for much bigger privacy violations - and not just in China - than any US shopping site can cause.

I like Unity, so I think I'm moving to Linux Mint where presumably I can still install Unity. I know Mint's founder is anti-Israel and doesn't want anyone to use his distro unless they share his political opinions, but I figure he's less of a threat to me than Ubuntu.


People are angry because search queries are sent to third parties, not amazon in particular.

And about Mir and the chinese government? Those are completely unrelated issues.

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RE[3]: Moral issues
by Soulbender on Mon 25th Mar 2013 10:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Moral issues"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I know Mint's founder is anti-Israel and doesn't want anyone to use his distro unless they share his political opinions,


...what? That's certainly something I've never heard before.

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RE[3]: Moral issues
by oskeladden on Mon 25th Mar 2013 14:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Moral issues"
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2009-08-05

I like Unity, so I think I'm moving to Linux Mint where presumably I can still install Unity. I know Mint's founder is anti-Israel and doesn't want anyone to use his distro unless they share his political opinions, but I figure he's less of a threat to me than Ubuntu.


Clem has apologised repeatedly for his 2009 rant against Israel, stepped back from the black/white view he expressed in it, and reaffirmed the apolitical nature of Linux Mint. Given that the Mint Box his project started producing last year are made by an Israeli company, I think it's pretty clear that he no longer holds the position he expressed in that post. See his response to a commentator here:

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2055#comment-67225

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