Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Mar 2013 20:17 UTC
In the News "An incident at the annual Python developer conference has led to allegations of sexism, death threats, the firings of two people, and - apparently - multiple DDoS (distributed denial-of-service) attacks." Absolutely bizarre.
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RE[9]: Overblown and beyond...
by Kochise on Tue 26th Mar 2013 11:48 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Overblown and beyond..."
Kochise
Member since:
2006-03-03

"You're name-calling, using hyperboles, spreading around red herrings, using typical misogynist language ("she should have shut up and take it like a man")."

Fun to read that from you, whenever you're making judgments and assumptions about me. Thanks ;)

When I said "take it like a men" and quoting a "level of people value", if she was that above the average, she could have passed above these jokes and listen to the speech being given. Yet she focused on the jokes, her "feminist" radar in full red alert, and decided she have to change the world.

Nothing misogynist to just notice she behaved like a douche she claims to fight against. And BTW, never heard of Adria before this osnews' topic.

I'm from France, and here lawyers don't promise you that you can be just a douche about anything that doesn't suit you. There's still some common sense, like leaving people making some jokes on your back (perhaps even directed at you) without raising an assault riffle and triggering.

If you cannot leave people live, then get a life.

Kochise

Edited 2013-03-26 11:50 UTC

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RE[10]: Overblown and beyond...
by jal_ on Tue 26th Mar 2013 13:24 in reply to "RE[9]: Overblown and beyond..."
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

""You're name-calling, using hyperboles, spreading around red herrings, using typical misogynist language ("she should have shut up and take it like a man")."

Fun to read that from you, whenever you're making judgments and assumptions about me. Thanks ;)
"
I didn't do any of the things I accused you of, and you didn't refute them.

When I said "take it like a men" and quoting a "level of people value", if she was that above the average, she could have passed above these jokes and listen to the speech being given.

You don't get it. That was already clear, but you drive it home every time. It's not about being "above" something. It's about two douchebags making sexist jokes (or at least jokes with a sexual connotation) and someone reporting it. Women should not have to be above anything. They should not be bothered by sexist men, ever, period. You cannot, as a man, order women to put up with your shit. You can't order anyone to put up with your shit.

Yet she focused on the jokes

It's unclear whether the guys were talking during a talk or during a break. Regardless, they obviously talked loud enough for someone sitting in the next row to overhear them.

her "feminist" radar in full red alert, and decided she have to change the world.

Again, nothing but hyperbole. I won't bother commenting.

Nothing misogynist to just notice she behaved like a douche she claims to fight against.

She's "fighting" against male chauvinist pigs, sexists and misogynists that create an unwelcome atmosphere in the tech scene, as far as I'm able to judge. She did not act like a MCP, sexist or misogynist. How you can conclude that she "behaved like a douche she claims to fight" is beyond me.

And BTW, never heard of Adria before this osnews' topic.

Yet, you claim insight in her behaviour and even read her mind!

I'm from France (...) There's still some common sense, like leaving people making some jokes on your back (perhaps even directed at you) without raising an assault riffle and triggering.

So France has a misogynist culture? And "common sense" is to accept that? Perhaps you should read this: http://thefrenchconnection.eu/tag/misogyny-in-france/

If you cannot leave people live, then get a life.

"Leaving people live" is not the same as "allowing misogynist to denigrade women". Really, think about it.

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Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

I don't always refute your calling me a name because it's fun enough. I use sarcasm, you take it on the first degree. You call me "miso" but you also show your true 'face' with your "male chauvinist pigs, sexists and
misogynists". Something against men ? Going personal ?

It's hard for me to understand you taking her side as well without making the slighest doubt about her own version, like she tells always the truth. Like she is an innocent little girl with big glaring eyes looking at you, about to cry. I don't buy that shit !

She clearly wanted to make this affair big, since she took a picture of the guys, a grin on her face. She clearly planned, may I say calculated, that they should get banned from PyCon, at best. But that so got fired in the process took everyone at surprise, me included.

However I can understand SendGrid : if you have someone like this in your staff, how could you trust him/her in the long run not to use such a nasty trick against you or one of your collegue ? Be it from a man or a woman.

Kochise

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