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Bad guys - Google
by ano69 on Fri 29th Mar 2013 09:39 UTC
ano69
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2006-07-07

I'm a small company owner (we're three partners and one employee), developing a software for Android (and iOS, soon WP8 too) which has small market, but enough to be important for our company. We're not getting enough money to be rich, but we sustain a almost normal living standard. Yesterday, Google announced a feature of a competing product (the offline translation in Google Translate) which directly hits our sales. No Evil? By using their sheer market size and subsidizing (offering) a free product directly competing with (not only) ours, we're going to take a huge hit.

The problem is that Google is already big enough to threaten almost any software company in the world... And when there is no more competition, all will suffer from high prices, limited choice and stalled development. Monopoly is bad.

And on top of that, they (Google) try to present themselves as a nice guys... I can't see them as nice guys, they are destroying business with alarmingly high rate. I hope that regulators (esp. in EU) will soon take a measures to regulate their shady business practices.

I'm not fen of either Apple or Microsoft, but they are much more mature companies which (somewhat) respect more the other people's business.

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RE: Bad guys - Google
by WereCatf on Fri 29th Mar 2013 09:55 in reply to "Bad guys - Google"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Yesterday, Google announced a feature of a competing product (the offline translation in Google Translate) which directly hits our sales. No Evil? By using their sheer market size and subsidizing (offering) a free product directly competing with (not only) ours, we're going to take a huge hit.


That sounds like normal competition, not evilness. I mean, what do you expect? Them to never, ever release new features for their own software just in the hopes of not stepping on someone else's toes? I mean, yes, it sucks to be put in that position, but chalking it up to evilness sounds childish at best.

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RE[2]: Bad guys - Google
by ano69 on Fri 29th Mar 2013 10:27 in reply to "RE: Bad guys - Google"
ano69 Member since:
2006-07-07

The problem is that they are releasing the said product for free, and the development is funded by income made using their other services where they have a market size advantage (which is an abuse). Doesn't seems to me as fair competition.

Like the only shop selling cakes in the town, and starting to give free breads... When bakeries close, there is no choice and no competition, well... and then your bread will become expensive and with bad quality. And nobody will try to open new bakery in that town, because this can happen again.

>>Them to never, ever release new features for their own software just in the hopes of not stepping on someone else's toes?

Just to charge a fair price, or limit the free use at least ;)

Edited 2013-03-29 10:38 UTC

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RE: Bad guys - Google
by novad on Fri 29th Mar 2013 10:26 in reply to "Bad guys - Google"
novad Member since:
2010-06-10

I'm sorry for your business (Really) and hope you'll soon find a way out of this problem.

I also understand that you're pissed off but I fail to see where Google behaved badly there.

They continuously enhance their platform. Enhancing the platform doesn’t only mean correcting bugs but also adding functionalities. This is why people chose to buy an Android phone/tablet/coffee machine and in the end give, you and your company customers.

If they had to compare each new functionality they implement with the ~800’000 apps that exist now to avoid any similarity in function, they could as well throw their platform to trash… It wouldn’t evolve anymore.

They didn’t sue you, block your app or whatever of this kind. You’re free to make it better and include additional functionalities that will make it a best seller (I hope you’ll achieve this)

Edited 2013-03-29 10:33 UTC

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RE: Bad guys - Google
by galvanash on Fri 29th Mar 2013 22:57 in reply to "Bad guys - Google"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

No Evil? By using their sheer market size and subsidizing (offering) a free product directly competing with (not only) ours, we're going to take a huge hit.


Im sorry about that, but you should chalk it down as a learning experience and move on to the next thing. The fact is Google probably doesn't know you even exist - they have been working on translation software since before Android even existed - you tried to play in THEIR pool, not the other way around...

That is not to say there is anything at all wrong with that - but don't cry about it being unfair. Do it better or do something else better, but don't expect to be "protected" form competition - competition is the whole damn point.

Sorry to be so brutal about it, but that is just the truth. You had a niche product and Google noticed a gab in their offering and filled it. That is the way it goes.

Move on. Come up with a new idea, or make your product better than theirs. I really do feel for you, but blaming Google for competing with you is simply sour grapes.

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