Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Mar 2013 23:16 UTC
Google This. This is what we need. These are the kind of steps from which we all benefit. Google has just announced the Open Patent Non-Assertion Pledge: the company promises not to sue any users, distributors, or developers of open source products based on the patents it owns (unless first attacked).
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RE: Bad guys - Google
by WereCatf on Fri 29th Mar 2013 09:55 UTC in reply to "Bad guys - Google"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Yesterday, Google announced a feature of a competing product (the offline translation in Google Translate) which directly hits our sales. No Evil? By using their sheer market size and subsidizing (offering) a free product directly competing with (not only) ours, we're going to take a huge hit.


That sounds like normal competition, not evilness. I mean, what do you expect? Them to never, ever release new features for their own software just in the hopes of not stepping on someone else's toes? I mean, yes, it sucks to be put in that position, but chalking it up to evilness sounds childish at best.

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RE[2]: Bad guys - Google
by ano69 on Fri 29th Mar 2013 10:27 in reply to "RE: Bad guys - Google"
ano69 Member since:
2006-07-07

The problem is that they are releasing the said product for free, and the development is funded by income made using their other services where they have a market size advantage (which is an abuse). Doesn't seems to me as fair competition.

Like the only shop selling cakes in the town, and starting to give free breads... When bakeries close, there is no choice and no competition, well... and then your bread will become expensive and with bad quality. And nobody will try to open new bakery in that town, because this can happen again.

>>Them to never, ever release new features for their own software just in the hopes of not stepping on someone else's toes?

Just to charge a fair price, or limit the free use at least ;)

Edited 2013-03-29 10:38 UTC

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RE[3]: Bad guys - Google
by WereCatf on Fri 29th Mar 2013 10:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad guys - Google"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

The problem is that they are releasing the said product for free, and the development is funded by income made using their other services where they have a market size advantage (which is an abuse). Doesn't seems to me as fair competition.


You clearly have no idea how naive that makes you sound. Are you seriously saying that Google should comb through every single god damn app on the whole planet and not release anything for free if some other app/game that is not free has a similar feature? Would YOU be prepared to do that?

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RE[3]: Bad guys - Google
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 29th Mar 2013 10:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad guys - Google"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Just to charge a fair price, or limit the free use at least


No. That blocks progress. Stuff always become cheaper as time goes by -especially in the technology industry. It's a core aspect of this industry. If Google doesn't do it, someone else will. It's how this business works. Virtually every piece of software has a free counterpart - some better, some worse. This is a risk that you should be aware of if you work in this industry, and you should have accounted for it.

Imagine if Netscape had forced its competitors to never release a free browser. We'd all be fucked.

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RE[3]: Bad guys - Google
by Soulbender on Fri 29th Mar 2013 11:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad guys - Google"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

The problem is that they are releasing the said product for free, and the development is funded by income made using their other services where they have a market size advantage (which is an abuse). Doesn't seems to me as fair competition.


So what you're saying is that they behave exactly like how Microsoft and Apple has done for a long time?
Wow, that sure makes Google a lot worse....

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