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Laurence
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2007-03-26

Ahh, that is a lot more nuances 'statement'. Now you are saying certain engineers pushed for GPL incompatible licensing.

That's exactly what I said right from the bloody start:
Though I guess this is the same grievances the engineers at Sun had and why they pushed for CDDL to be incompatible with GPL.
Ok, I'll concede that the statement does read a bit like I'm saying every engineer pushed for that. I could have been a little more clear on that. But I'd have thought the generalisation was implied.


And we'll never know how large that part was.

Oh totally. I was never trying to argue the reason for CDDLs licensing, just some of the feelings from some of the engineers. In actual fact, the end result of CDDL is irrelevant to the point I was making (though you could be forgiven for not realising that with the way how that statement was phrased).

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Even with generalization, I'm not so sure it's close or a lot more than half off all the engineers.

And we can't be sure if that is true, that is why I think people should stop talking about it like it's the only truth.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Even with generalization, I'm not so sure it's close or a lot more than half off all the engineers.

Generalisations don't have to be based on majority case scenarios (and usually aren't). I certainly wasn't implying that all or even the majority of engineers felt that way. In fact I deliberately avoided any such estimations as it would be grossly presumptuous of me to guess such a figure.


To be frank, I'm starting to get a little frustrated because my whole argument that spawning this cyclic debate was that some Sun engineers didn't want to see their code "stolen" by the Linux community. Nothing more. Now I appreciate that I've not explained that point as well as I could have, but you're equally leaping to quite a number of assumptions (I don't know if it's because you want to find counter arguments to my arguments or if it is just an explanation and interpretation issue. but either way you keep raising objections to statements I've never made - such as you objection to the claim I never made about the quantity of engineers or about whether they had authority to make the final decision).


And we can't be sure if that is true, that is why I think people should stop talking about it like it's the only truth.

Except that we do know it's true because several Sun employees have stated so. What's often argued is whether those sentiments were what led to the incompatibilities in the final version of CDDL. However my point was never about CDDL but instead about the engineers sentiments (CDDL was only referenced to give context to the anecdote). So the reasoning behind CDDL is completely irrelevant in the context of this discussion.

Edited 2013-03-31 01:06 UTC

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