Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Apr 2013 21:06 UTC
In the News "Kay says that some gadgets with superficial Dynabook-like qualities, such as the iPad, have not only failed to realize the Dynabook dream, but have in some senses betrayed it. That's one of the points he makes in this interview, conducted by computer historian David Greelish, proprietor of the Classic Computing Blog and organizer of this month's Vintage Computer Festival Southeast in Atlanta (the Festival will feature a pop-up Apple museum featuring Xerox's groundbreaking Alto workstation, which Kay worked on, as well as devices which deeply reflected his influence, including the Lisa, the original Macintosh and the Newton). Kay and Greelish also discuss Kay's experiences at some of the big outfits where he's worked, including Xerox's fabled PARC labs, Apple, Disney and HP. Today, Kay continues his research about children and technology at his own organization, the Viewpoints Research Institute." A great interview with this legendary man.
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Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

kwan_e,

"Then your criticisms are irrelevant, because I can pretty well argue we already have had Dynabooks in the form of PCs and laptops. They have the power and the openness. That leaves your criticism only applicable to a certain form factor and thus largely superficial."

This logic doesn't make any sense at all. Just because desktop computers are able to run almost anything we want, it doesn't follow that tablets should not.

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kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

kwan_e,

"Then your criticisms are irrelevant, because I can pretty well argue we already have had Dynabooks in the form of PCs and laptops. They have the power and the openness. That leaves your criticism only applicable to a certain form factor and thus largely superficial."

This logic doesn't make any sense at all. Just because desktop computers are able to run almost anything we want, it doesn't follow that tablets should not.


What is the purpose of Dynabook?

For symmetric consumption and production.

Do we have that capability today?

Yes.

We have achieved the goal. You can't get more logical than that.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

kwan_e,

"What is the purpose of Dynabook?"

"We have achieved the goal. You can't get more logical than that."


Alan Kay was asked to come up with a modern version of the Dynabook, which the video clearly shows as being more tablet-like than laptop-like. So there's very clear evidence that he applied this vision to tablets also, even way back then.


But even if that weren't the case I'd still maintain the argument is illogical. Let me try to distance myself from the Dynabook for a moment because that seems to be a roadblock in the discussion. Allow me to substitute it with a less controversial (but more ridiculous) example just to make a point.

Say the ipad banned all graphing calculator software (who cares why, maybe apple thought that it didn't belong on a consumer consumption device).


Now you come in:
"Do we have that capability today?"
"Yes."
"We have achieved the goal."
"Then your criticisms are irrelevant, because I can pretty well argue we already have had Graphic Calcuators in the form of TI85/TI86's. That leaves your criticism only applicable to a certain form factor and thus largely superficial."

This is all true, and yet do you see how silly this argument sounds?

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