Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Apr 2013 20:43 UTC
Gnome "The team is proud to announce the release of MATE Desktop 1.6. This release is a giant step forward from the 1.4 release. In this release, we have replaced many deprecated packages and libraries with new technologies available in GLib. We have also added a lot of new features to MATE." Look at those screenshots. This is what GNOME is supposed to be: elegant, understated, to-the-point. I should try this.
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RE: Comment by Sodki
by joekiser on Thu 4th Apr 2013 03:14 UTC in reply to "Comment by Sodki"
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This has zero to do with "Windows 95" fanboyisms. There are several Desktop Environment paradigms and this is just one of them. A lot of people liked GNOME 2.x, myself included, and a lot of personal and professional environments relied on it. It's not old, it's what it is. And the way MATE survived and thrived proves that people still want it. And the MATE developers are doing a superb job by re-architecting the deprecated underpinnings with the current technologies of GNOME 3. That's a good thing.

More research went into designing that interface than probably anything else on the market. A coalition of Sun, HP, RedHat, and smaller companies made the usability refinements because they wanted to push into government agencies as a viable desktop solution (fascinating insight into the early development of Gnome 2, see: and

My theory is that with Sun out of existence and HP reeling, only RedHat has a vested interest in Gnome development. Except now RedHat has completely given up on desktop Linux ever happening and they are more interested in making and keeping a sustainable competitive advantage in the cloud computing/virtualization market, so they threw everything away from Gnome 2.x for something that fits that new paradigm. Correct me if I'm wrong. Its going to be fascinating to see how they milk a usable interface out of Gnome Shell for RHEL7.

Gnome 2 was sensible and flexible as a user interface and that holds true today (still the default in CentOS/RHEL/SL6). Just because something is old doesn't mean it wasn't well thought out or useful.

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RE[2]: Comment by Sodki
by Sodki on Thu 4th Apr 2013 03:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Sodki"
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Its going to be fascinating to see how they milk a usable interface out of Gnome Shell for RHEL7.

I'm not really sure how they are going to manage it. RHEL 7 is going to be based on Fedora 18, which has GNOME 3.6 (not bad) and also MATE 1.4. I suspected that bringing MATE into Fedora 18 was a key play for RHEL 7, but I've been told that GNOME 3 will be the default desktop on it, so I'm a bit confused. I guess sysadmins will have the choice of keeping people on a GNOME 2 interface with RHEL 7, using the official RHEL 7 MATE packages. That is not bad news for enterprise environments.

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RE[3]: Comment by Sodki
by Rahul on Thu 4th Apr 2013 06:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Sodki"
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MATE in Fedora was introduced and continues to be maintained by volunteer developers and have nothing to do with Red Hat or RHEL. Most Fedora packages are maintained by volunteers these days and have nothing to do with Red Hat.

GNOME 3 in large part is developed by the Red Hat desktop team and will end up as default for RHEL 7 with KDE as a alternative as always.

Now EPEL add-on repository might include MATE just like it includes Xfce right now but again, that is a volunteer driven project.

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