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Apple "Thanks to 35-year-old documents that have recently surfaced after three-plus decades in storage, we now know exactly how Apple navigated around that obstacle to create the company's first disk operating system. In more than a literal sense, it is also the untold story of how Apple booted up. From contracts - signed by both Wozniak and Jobs - to design specs to page after page of schematics and code, CNET had a chance to examine this document trove, housed at the DigiBarn computer museum in California's Santa Cruz Mountains, which shed important new light on those formative years at Apple."
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by moondevil on Thu 4th Apr 2013 21:40 UTC in reply to "BASIC"
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The problem is that the web is full of JavaScript developers that never learned anything about hardware and low level programming like we did back in the day.

Alone the common confusion that a language runtime == VM makes me cry, kind of.

It is as the actual generation does not have any idea how computers work.

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by TempleOS on Thu 4th Apr 2013 22:55 in reply to "RE: BASIC"
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I get a lot of attention from CIA. You know how much they want back door and logging and monitoring and shut-off and stuff, so I'm not crazy about this.

Anyway, the agents I work with like to detect guilt and capitalize.

I don't know if I tipped them off with a comment, but the yokals who handle me think that assembly language knowlegde is in the same category as a gun.

I see this on web sites -- painting assembly language as unlawful hacking knowledge. This is furiously not fair! I had 5 assembly language courses in school and half my job experience was ordinary work in assembly language.

It is bitterly not fair to have guilt focused on assembly language knowlegde. This is blatant evil government wanting ignorance. They have turned it into something criminal or like nuclear secrets.

I'm not sure how much was my yokal handlers simply using my uncomfort against me. It's so retarded it can't come from knowledagable folks.

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by Gullible Jones on Fri 5th Apr 2013 01:02 in reply to "RE[2]: BASIC"
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Attention from the CIA? Yokel handlers? What the heck are you talking about?

Edit: I will confess I don't know x86 assembly, but I've never gotten the impression anyone but irredeemable idiots think it's "forbidden knowledge" or whatever. They still teach assembly languages in colleges in my area, in the higher level courses.

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by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 5th Apr 2013 15:10 in reply to "RE[2]: BASIC"
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I don't know about that. I bought the Revolutionary guide to x86 assembly ( written by some soviet hackers ) after the patriot act was passed. No one has ever contacted me, even though the book itself seemed to jokingly imply a socialist revolution might be the product of reading the book.

Sounds like you need a vacation.

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by Alfman on Fri 5th Apr 2013 01:22 in reply to "RE: BASIC"
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You're completely right, however I also think it's a function of demand. Why bother becoming proficient in skill sets like low level assembly when many of us who already have the skills are not appreciated (monetarily or even verbally) for our knowledge?

Would be nice to get to a pub and chat about our experiences. ;)

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by moondevil on Fri 5th Apr 2013 06:12 in reply to "RE[2]: BASIC"
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It is not only Assembly, but overall how CPUs work, compilers, that languages and their respective implementation are different subjects and so on.

So, are you around Düsseldorf? ;)

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