Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Apr 2013 10:47 UTC
Games More and more evidence is pointing towards the next Xbox requiring an always-on internet connection in order to play any games - i.e., once you lose your connection, you can't play any game at all. Three minutes after losing your connection, "your" game will suspend itself and stop playing. Microsoft's Adam Orth took to Twitter to defend this anti-consumer practice, but he did so in the most ungraceful of ways.
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RE: Comment by Chris_G
by drcouzelis on Fri 5th Apr 2013 11:35 UTC in reply to "Comment by Chris_G"
drcouzelis
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2010-01-11

I (and many others) own and enjoy using a Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS, NES, Nintendo 64, and Dreamcast. The release dates of these games and consoles range between 14 years and 27 years old. I'll be able to continue enjoying the games I bought as long as the hardware continues working.

Likewise, with my Wii console, I will continue being able to play it until the hardware breaks.

How long will a person be able to play video games on the next version of the Xbox? How long will Microsoft keep the servers for it running? Five years? Ten years? All websites eventually go down.

My children love playing the old video games I saved. Will the next generation of video games be arond long enough for anyone's children be able to play them?

In summary, THINK OF THE CHILDREN! ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G
by lucas_maximus on Fri 5th Apr 2013 14:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by Chris_G"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

How long will a person be able to play video games on the next version of the Xbox? How long will Microsoft keep the servers for it running? Five years? Ten years? All websites eventually go down.


Considering you can still go to windows update and update a fresh windows 98 installation ... I think for a while yet.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Tell that to my sad Plays for sure WMA files... They cry out for verification and validation, but hear only the stupid silence of Microsoft's fickle fascination with DRM formats.

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RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G
by toast88 on Fri 5th Apr 2013 17:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Considering you can still go to windows update and update a fresh windows 98 installation ... I think for a while yet.


Except that you can't. The current version of Windows Update requires Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher.

I recently installed Windows 98 on an old Compaq Notebook 100, Windows Update did NOT work (at least not with the version of Internet Explorer shipped with Windows 98SE which is 5.5).

Installing Internet Explorer 6.0 isn't possible either as the servers for the online installer do not work anymore.

I think I later also tried with an offline installer version of IE6 and it didn't work either.

So, no, you can't really update Windows 98 anymore through Windows Update.

Adrian

Edited 2013-04-05 17:27 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Chris_G
by henderson101 on Mon 8th Apr 2013 14:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I own a Dreamcast. None of the online services that once existed still work, outside of a few fan run servers. So basically, any of the games with online play are severely limited now. I have games on the XBOX 360 that have had their servers close (very early ones, usually sports based.) So, essentially again, the online play is gone. Imagine all of the games required a server to play at all - this is the issue. I don't care if Microsoft still provides Windows 98 updates or not, they won't keep a bunch of console servers running indefinitely, no matter how much they promise to. Nor will they provide Windows 98 downloads for much longer.

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RE[2]: Comment by Chris_G
by Brendan on Sat 6th Apr 2013 02:54 in reply to "RE: Comment by Chris_G"
Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

My children love playing the old video games I saved. Will the next generation of video games be arond long enough for anyone's children be able to play them?


This is a compromise between the amount of profit lost due to bad publicity (e.g. caused by turning the servers off) and the amount of profit gained by forcing people to upgrade their console.

My guess is that "xBox n" will be released, will have teething problems for several months and then will work fine for about 5 years (for people who have always on internet anyway). Then "xBox n+1" will be released and the servers for the older "xBox n" will suddenly become sluggish and unreliable for marketing reasons (with "the servers are being re-purposed for the newer Xbox" used as a barely plausible excuse). Then the servers for the older "xBox n" will just get worse over the next few years, until Microsoft can claim that nobody is using them (because they're so slow and unreliable that everyone had to upgrade their console) and turns them off completely.

Consumers will be annoyed at this, and will say things like "I'll never buy an xBox again"; but people are stupid and they'll buy the "xBox n+1" anyway (and have the same problems when "xBox n+2" is released, and say things like "I'll never buy xBox again" before rushing out and buying "xBox n+3"). After maybe 15 years of this it'll become "industry standard behaviour" and people will stop complaining about being forced to upgrade every 5 years because they've been trained to accept it.

- Brendan

Edited 2013-04-06 02:54 UTC

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