Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Apr 2013 10:47 UTC
Games More and more evidence is pointing towards the next Xbox requiring an always-on internet connection in order to play any games - i.e., once you lose your connection, you can't play any game at all. Three minutes after losing your connection, "your" game will suspend itself and stop playing. Microsoft's Adam Orth took to Twitter to defend this anti-consumer practice, but he did so in the most ungraceful of ways.
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viton
Member since:
2005-08-09

make Sony look like nice people
LOL@Mr MS fanboy

Sony goes out of their way
Sony is ON their way. They're always was much friendlier to small developers and always more open: Net Yaroze@PSX, PS2 Linux, PS3 Linux.

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silviucc Member since:
2009-12-05

Before calling me an "MS fanboy" check out my comments on other topics here on OSnews.

While I'm certainly no fan of MS I think I might have stumbled over one of Sony's, else I really can't explain the passion or name calling.

On the issue of being able to install linux on something like the PS3, that was an option a long, long time ago. Sony decided they wouldn't allow it anymore and changed the firmware accordingly (sometime in 2010) . People were left with a choice: upgrade fw to be able tot play new titles on their PS3s or keep the current one that allowed them to install another OS on there.

There was a huge outcry and almost a lawsuit. Judge tossed it out. Google it up.

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Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

On the issue of being able to install linux on something like the PS3, that was an option a long, long time ago. Sony decided they wouldn't allow it anymore and changed the firmware accordingly

A smaller PS3 firmware size, and getting better purchase rates for the Cell did it. It was shitty to consumers, but Sony didn’t remove Linux from your already installed device, they just stopped updating the firmware that had the support.

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viton Member since:
2005-08-09

I think I might have stumbled over one of Sony's

You're lucky ;-)
Sorry if I offended you. It was not my intention.
Why so serious ? :-)

People were left with a choice: upgrade fw to be able tot play new titles on their PS3s or keep the current one that allowed them to install another OS on there.

In a real world everybody is occasionally faced with limited choice. And it is unreasonable to whine about that.

Edited 2013-04-06 13:21 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Oh come on. You can't bring up Linux on Playstation as a proof that Sony is hip with the haxors. They removed the other os option and effectively left them out in the cold without so much as a warm blanket.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Sony went downhill from Yaroze.

Yaroze had complete hardware access.

PS2 Linux you had to access the hardware via special libraries higher level than the real developers had.

PS3 Linux had an hypervisor without access to 3D features, and it was later on removed from standard PS3 anyway.

PSVita is .NET only.

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viton Member since:
2005-08-09

On PS2 Linux, there was complete low level access to graphics and VUs.
On PS3 games are running on top of hypervisor as well.
Anyways it is irrelevant in the context of indy development friendliness.
PSVita is relatively cheap to develop for.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Sony went downhill from Yaroze.

Yaroze had complete hardware access.

Not strictly complete - Yaroze games had no access to the CD-ROM drive, they had to all fit in (small) RAM after the initial loading.

Plus, Net Yaroze was a quite rare gear, different from ordinary consoles... only very few of Yaroze games were made available to the masses via Playstation Magazine disks.

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