Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Apr 2013 21:06 UTC
In the News "Kay says that some gadgets with superficial Dynabook-like qualities, such as the iPad, have not only failed to realize the Dynabook dream, but have in some senses betrayed it. That's one of the points he makes in this interview, conducted by computer historian David Greelish, proprietor of the Classic Computing Blog and organizer of this month's Vintage Computer Festival Southeast in Atlanta (the Festival will feature a pop-up Apple museum featuring Xerox's groundbreaking Alto workstation, which Kay worked on, as well as devices which deeply reflected his influence, including the Lisa, the original Macintosh and the Newton). Kay and Greelish also discuss Kay's experiences at some of the big outfits where he's worked, including Xerox's fabled PARC labs, Apple, Disney and HP. Today, Kay continues his research about children and technology at his own organization, the Viewpoints Research Institute." A great interview with this legendary man.
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kwan_e
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2007-02-18

Yes, you've said you agree with his vision, but then you keep contradicting him by insisting we are beyond it whereas he indicates the various ways which we are not.


So I should pipe down?

He only indicated one other major thing: AI. And again, that has nothing to do with gadget lock down.

Saying someone's vision is behind us when they say it hasn't happened yet is somewhat insulting you know?


That doesn't make sense since Alan Kay is not the only person in history with the same vision. It doesn't belong to him, at least not if we're talking about something greater than the Dynabook. Philosophy, religion and history is full of stories about people who had a vision and didn't see it when it manifested because it didn't match the form they wanted.

I don't see what personal feelings have anything to do with fact.

Your comments don't justice to his vision.


And neither does the World Wide Web do justice to Vannevar Bush's vision of the Memex. I'm still getting silence on this comparison.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

kwan_e,

"That doesn't make sense since Alan Kay is not the only person in history with the same vision. It doesn't belong to him, at least not if we're talking about something greater than the Dynabook."

Well, maybe the root of our disagreement is over simple semantics. I'd say an individual's vision is his own. Alan's vision DOES belong to him, even for things beyond the Dynabook. Of course others will have overlapping visions, but they are THEIR visions and not his. Even if they think that their visions are completed, it doesn't necessarily imply the same for his.

I hope this can be chalked up to semantic differences, because it's been frustrating not being able to communicate with each other.

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