Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Apr 2013 22:25 UTC
Games The Wii U isn't doing well. "We're told by someone with access to the NPD's data that sales for January were 'well under' 100,000 units. By our estimates, sales were somewhere between 45,000 and 59,000 units for the month, which is lower than any of the three previous-generation home consoles sold in their worst months, with the possible exception of a recent performance by the original Wii." All that is old will be new again.
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RE: no software, no sales
by bassbeast on Tue 9th Apr 2013 03:47 UTC in reply to "no software, no sales"
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I think you are wrong and here is why: When the original Wii was released? A phone that would play games cost nearly $4500 and tablets weren't much cheaper. Now you can get a tablet for like $70 that comes with Angry Birds and Cut The Rope and nearly every phone being offered by a major carrier comes with casual games.

This is what happens when you focus too tightly on a niche, if the market changes you are just boned. Nintendo decided to completely give up on ALL of the hardcore crowd and focus JUST on the casual set, we have seen several devs come flat out and say that the Wii U not only won't play the next gen games it won't play the hardcore games coming out now so this thing is ONLY good for the casual crowd and that market is too busy playing with their Android tablets or iPads to really care.

Personally I figured this would happen because every person I know has the Wii...and its in the closet. It was a fad, no different than Guitar Hero, everybody wanted it but quickly got burnt on the "Wii Waggle" and it ended up gathering dust in a closet. Now those people are too busy playing the latest phone games to really care about chasing the Wii Waggle with the Wii Tab and I don't think cutting the price is gonna help, the market has just moved on.

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RE[2]: no software, no sales
by Laurence on Tue 9th Apr 2013 10:10 in reply to "RE: no software, no sales"
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I almost entirely agree with you bar the poitn about teh Wii being a fad. I don't think it was as it outlasted any other fad by a long stretch and I might be wrong about this, but didn't it also outsell the PS3 and 360?

The problem with the original Wii was that most of the games didn't have much longevity and the specs were too poor to attract more of the serious developers (who knew that serious gamers would also be put off by the specs).

I think the original Wii was a gimmick that became very successful. And because of this Nintendo's next console had great potential to build upon their market share but also attract some of the jaded non-casual gamers (and I think there are quite a few of those who are starting to get sick of the unimaginative titles on Ms and Sony consoles). The Wii was also the most social of all the consoles, which that in itself can help drive consoles as families can share gaming time rather than playing in isolation over the net.

However the Wii U is -in my opinion at least- a major blunder. They've moved more into the gimmick territory, the touch screen controller is bulky and a crappier version of smart phones / tablets that everyone already has, specs are driving new business away and now Nintendo are stuck trying to sell a gimmick that everyone has already bought into (either with the Wii original or tablets).

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sergio Member since:

In fact Skyward Sword sold very well and Wii was already in the closet back then!

Because games are what really matters.

As long as people love Link, Samus and Mario... Nintendo will sell their consoles.

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bassbeast Member since:

Yeah but how many games do the average wii owner buy? last time i looked at the figures the number was TWO, that's it, just two.

My youngest was a console maniac before I finally managed to get him onto a PC (which turned out to be MUCH MUCH cheaper in the long run, just FYI) and how many games did he have for his wii? just five, that's all, and two of those were gifts.

Mario and Samus and Link simply aren't enough to keep a system alive and with the new consoles coming out the devs are all focused on those at the third parties and with the Wii u being so underpowered a Wii U port is just out of the question.

I really think they focused too much on the casuals and while i'm sure a few hardcore mario fans will buy anything he is on I really don't see this even getting second place, if MSFT burns the X720 with online only and no used games they MIGHT get third behind Sony and Valve, MAYBE.

But the days of being able to sell with just a gimmick controller are over friend, the numbers don't lie.

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RE[2]: no software, no sales
by zima on Wed 10th Apr 2013 21:35 in reply to "RE: no software, no sales"
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When the original Wii was released? A phone that would play games cost nearly $4500

That's not really true - j2me games were and still are big on popular inexpensive mobile phone models...
"The top content for downloading is by far games applications"

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