Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Apr 2013 16:37 UTC
Windows Microsoft's Terry Myerson, corporate vice president of Windows Phone, talks about the competition. "With iPhone, I sense that it's running out of steam. With iOS, [Apple] just added a fifth row of icons. Android is... kind of a mess. Look at Samsung - there's clearly mutiny going on. The only OEM making money off of Android is Samsung." There's truth to all these statements, which makes it all the more surprising that Microsoft appears to be unable to properly capitalise on them. Sure, WP appears to be doing well in a few select markets, but by no means the kind of success Microsoft and (Nokia) was banking on. Microsoft will pull through. Nokia on the other hand...
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RE[3]: So what
by ricegf on Wed 17th Apr 2013 10:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

No less than the very respectable Dr. Dobbs journal stated yesterday that “it's now clear that Windows 8 is a fiasco”. Ouch.

http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/pulling-back-from-windows-8/24015304...

A few other quotes for you to explain away as "ridiculous":

"PC shipments dropped by 14% in the first quarter of this year...As IDC pointed out, it was the single biggest year-over-year drop since the company began tracking PC sales in 1994.

"Hidden in IDC's analysis was an unusual assertion; namely, that Windows 8 had not only not helped PC sales, but actually depressed them.

"When Win 8 came out, we bought a test machine with the new OS loaded on it, fairly confident that we'd need it for testing the inevitable batch of soon-to-arrive Metro apps. But these apps have not materialized... that Win8 test machine has been a long experiment in frustration. Microsoft's design decisions, both at the UI level and below, serve to continually get in our way... We shall shortly strip off Win8 and replace it Windows 7.

"Win8-specific apps have been a non-starter.

"the question is how fast Microsoft can fix their bet."

Pretty much matches my personal experience with the one Win 8 laptop we bought. Never again. Ug.

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RE[4]: So what
by Nelson on Wed 17th Apr 2013 14:58 in reply to "RE[3]: So what"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


A few other quotes for you to explain away as "ridiculous":

"PC shipments dropped by 14% in the first quarter of this year...As IDC pointed out, it was the single biggest year-over-year drop since the company began tracking PC sales in 1994.


Do you think an OS that was more like Windows 7 would've change this? I really don't.


"Hidden in IDC's analysis was an unusual assertion; namely, that Windows 8 had not only not helped PC sales, but actually depressed them.


Its useful to separate IDCs cold hard data from their conjecture. This becomes the gray area where I stop really taking what analysts say at face value. If you want to believe them, that's fine with me. I won't. I've been burned by analysts before.


"Win8-specific apps have been a non-starter.


Anyone not currently building a Windows Store app has a broken business model. It is a goldmine. Windows 8 is going to have a market penetration that is incredibly attractive to developers.

Being worried about this is just devoid of all reason. I can personally vouch for the attractive revenue that's to be gained.

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RE[5]: So what
by ricegf on Thu 18th Apr 2013 10:06 in reply to "RE[4]: So what"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Do you think an OS that was more like Windows 7 would've change this? I really don't.


"More like Windows 7" wasn't the phrase I would have used, rather "more like what the typical PC customer wanted". Then, yes.

More importantly, the data strongly implies this is true. When introducing a new product causes an obvious knee toward accelerating the declining sales curve, it's difficult to think otherwise. But I don't think the data is really impacting your opinions at all. *shrugs*

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