Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Apr 2013 22:27 UTC, submitted by Adurbe
Microsoft "One company - Taiwan's Foxconn - makes a staggering 40 percent of the world's consumer electronic devices. Starting now, Microsoft will be getting paid a toll on many of those devices. The company's long patent-licensing campaign has landed its biggest client yet in licensing Foxconn, formally named Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. Foxconn has agreed to take a license for any product it produces that runs Google's Android or Chrome operating systems." More protection money for the Microsoft patent mafia.
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Comment by twitterfire
by twitterfire on Wed 17th Apr 2013 22:44 UTC
twitterfire
Member since:
2008-09-11

It's easier to attack smaller targets like HTC or Foxconn because they don't have Apple's, Google's or Samsung's money to defend in courts. And they don't have many patents of their own to countersue.

I think taiwanese companies - Asus, VIA, Acer, Foxconn, HTC - should assemble a national pool of patents to defend against the likes of Microsoft. Korean companies like Samsung should do the same. Chinese companies don't have to worry as much.

We are blessed in EU, we don't produce almost any electronic devices so no one can sue us. ;)

Edited 2013-04-17 22:54 UTC

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 18th Apr 2013 00:33 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Well, it's not like the U.S. produces much computer hardware either. It mostly comes from China/Taiwan. Assembly of imported parts seems to be about all this country is really good at (aside from making criminals out of everyone). It's just that here, we use stupid-ass software patent law to bully anyone around who dares sell a product on U.S. soil--whether it was actually made in the U.S. or not.

Edited 2013-04-18 00:35 UTC

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by skpg on Thu 18th Apr 2013 00:58 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
skpg Member since:
2012-09-21

It's easier to attack smaller targets like HTC or Foxconn because they don't have Apple's, Google's or Samsung's money to defend in courts. And they don't have many patents of their own to countersue.

I think taiwanese companies - Asus, VIA, Acer, Foxconn, HTC - should assemble a national pool of patents to defend against the likes of Microsoft. Korean companies like Samsung should do the same. Chinese companies don't have to worry as much.

We are blessed in EU, we don't produce almost any electronic devices so no one can sue us


Microsoft has been doing this for decades through copyright law. Now they are abusing patent law too.

Microsoft is heavily dependent on copyright and patents for their monopoly to function. As you know 70% of Microsoft's profits come from windows and office, that means 70% of their profits comes from copyright licensing fees, now they are getting patent fees too.

Not only does copyright protect Microsoft's software from being redistributed, it also protects their source code, their api, their kernel from being used by any software developer (ie preventing windows from being forked). For example direct x can only be used in the windows operating system, if ms wanted to be more fair they can at least make DX open source and cross platform but because their software is protected under IP they don't have to. Therefore the consumer is locked to using windows for their gaming needs. Windows of course despite the support it gets, is terrible for gaming.

Edited 2013-04-18 01:12 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by twitterfire
by ilovebeer on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:37 in reply to "RE: Comment by twitterfire"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Windows of course despite the support it gets, is terrible for gaming.

There are millions and millions and millions and millions of Windows gamers who would disagree with you. As a matter of fact, you're the only one I've heard whining about Windows gaming in forever so really I think you're just whining about Microsoft in general.

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by moondevil on Thu 18th Apr 2013 06:11 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

We are blessed in EU, we don't produce almost any electronic devices so no one can sue us. ;)


Nor software it seems ;) , given the amount off-shore projects I have been involved in the last few years.

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by majipoor on Thu 18th Apr 2013 08:11 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
majipoor Member since:
2009-01-22

"It's easier to attack smaller targets like HTC or Foxconn..."

Seriously? Foxconn has $100bn annual revenue and more than 1 million employees.

Edited 2013-04-18 08:12 UTC

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by westlake on Thu 18th Apr 2013 13:58 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
westlake Member since:
2010-01-07

It's easier to attack smaller targets like HTC or Foxconn because they don't have Apple's, Google's or Samsung's money to defend in courts.


Smaller targets?

Foxconn has 1.3 million employees.

It is the world's largest electronics contract manufacturer measured by revenues.

[NT$ 3.452 trillion (2011)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

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RE[2]: Comment by twitterfire
by twitterfire on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:50 in reply to "RE: Comment by twitterfire"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11


Smaller targets?
Foxconn has 1.3 million employees.
It is the world's largest electronics contract manufacturer measured by revenues.


Yes, but what's the market capitalization? They aren't anywhere near as powerful as Apple, Google or even Samsung.

They sell in big numbers but their profit margin is low.

Edited 2013-04-18 14:56 UTC

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RE: Comment by twitterfire
by Deviate_X on Thu 18th Apr 2013 18:19 in reply to "Comment by twitterfire"
Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

It's easier to attack smaller targets like HTC or Foxconn because they don't have Apple's, Google's or Samsung's money to defend in court...


Lets not forget that Microsoft are suing Motorola mobility which _is__ entirely Google......

http://www.itworld.com/it-management/341049/judge-invalidates-13-mo...

and lets not forget that Samsung are already paying MSFT ....

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/samsung-signs-microsoft-patent-...

Edited 2013-04-18 18:22 UTC

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