Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 11:21 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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RE[3]: What would save Nokia
by Nelson on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What would save Nokia"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

They sold 17 million Lumias in 2012. But I guess that's a failure, somehow.

There is a clear trend and a clear acceleration. The worst part of Nokia's transition is behind them. Now they need to double down on their strategy and keep steadily increasing their volume.

This isn't going to happen in one quarter, but you can see the trend for Windows Phone sales.

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RE[4]: What would save Nokia
by twitterfire on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:37 in reply to "RE[3]: What would save Nokia"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

They sold 17 million Lumias in 2012.


Rank . . Manufacturer . Units . . . Market Share . Was in Q3 of 2012 . . OS supported (coming),[ending]
1 (1) . . . Samsung . . . 63.9 M . . 29.4 % . . . . . .( 32.8 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, bada, Windows, (Tizen)
2 (2) . . . Apple . . . . . . 47.8 M . . 22.0 % . . . . . . ( 15.7 %) . . . . . . . . . iOS
3 (3) . . . Huawei . . . . . 20.2 M . . . 9.3 % . . . . . . ( 9.3 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, (Tizen)
4 (5) . . . ZTE . . . . . . . 12.4 M . . . 5.7 % . . . . . . ( 4.7 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows, (Firefox)
5 (9) . . . Lenovo . . . . . . 9.4 M . . . 4.3 % . . . . . . ( 4.1 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
6 (4) . . . Sony . . . . . . . 8.7 M . . . 4.0 % . . . . . . ( 5.1 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
7 (8) . . . LG . . . . . . . . . 8.6 M . . . 4.0 % . . . . . . ( 4.2 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
8 (6) . . . HTC . . . . . . . . 7.0 M . . . 3.2 % . . . . . . ( 4.6 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows
9 (7) . . . RIM . . . . . . . . 6.9 M . . . 3.2 % . . . . . . ( 4.3 %) . . . . . . . . . Blackberry
10 (10) . Nokia . . . . . . . 6.6 M . . . 3.0 % . . . . . . ( 3.7 %) . . . . . . . . . Windows, [Symbian], [MeeGo]
Others . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.7 M . . 11.8 % . . . . . . ( 11.6 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows, others, (Tizen), (Sailfish)
TOTAL . . . . . . . . . 217.2 M

As you can see, even Lenovo sold more smartphones than Nokia. Huawei and Zte sold much, much more. And 4 years ago Nokia was #1 mobile phone seller while Huawei and Lenovo were maybe in top 100 while Lenovo didn't even sell phones at that time.

Now, tell me more about Nokia's massive growth.

Edited 2013-04-18 14:38 UTC

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RE[5]: What would save Nokia
by Nelson on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:40 in reply to "RE[4]: What would save Nokia"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Its nice that you can copy and paste a chart from somewhere, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

I also never claimed that Nokia had explosive growth, only steady and encouraging sequential growth.

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RE[4]: What would save Nokia
by lindkvis on Fri 19th Apr 2013 11:54 in reply to "RE[3]: What would save Nokia"
lindkvis Member since:
2006-11-21

They sold 17 million Lumias in 2012. But I guess that's a failure, somehow.

There is a clear trend and a clear acceleration. The worst part of Nokia's transition is behind them. Now they need to double down on their strategy and keep steadily increasing their volume.

This isn't going to happen in one quarter, but you can see the trend for Windows Phone sales.


Apple sold 47.8 million iPhones in Quarter 1 of 2013 alone. This was a 29% growth from the year before.

Samsungs increases are even more impressive. They sold 70 million smart phones in Q1 of 2013, and currently sell more than 25 million smart phones per month. They basically sell more smart phones per month than Nokia does per year.

For the last 5 years, we have been in a massive and ongoing upwards trend for smart phone sales. The typical YoY growth for the big players in this market is 20%+, and this is players who are already selling massively.

Nokia is doing neither. They have sales figures which have halved in a year. If you don't massively increase your smart phone sales during this massive market expansion, you are doing extremely poorly.

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RE[4]: What would save Nokia
by xgff on Sun 21st Apr 2013 22:59 in reply to "RE[3]: What would save Nokia"
xgff Member since:
2013-04-21

They sold 17 million Lumias in 2012. But I guess that's a failure, somehow.

From Nokia Q4 2012 report: "Smart Devices shipped a total of 13.4 million Lumia devices in 2012."

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