Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 11:21 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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RE: Size matters
by cdude on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:19 UTC in reply to "Size matters"
cdude
Member since:
2008-09-21

If your company falls and shrinks that fast while explicit shrinking talent away then you are left with those who may not able to find a new, better place to work at.

During past 2 years whenever we read Nokia fires another bunch of people who did they fire? Where did they decrease? Not at management level, not marketing, not at lawyers. Production and R&D! That gives you a water-head company with 20 levels of management and nobody left below for execution. Good luck with that when being forced to produce something again rather then only repackage, market and resell what comes out of Redmond.

Even hardware-expertise is lost. That's why Lumia is still Lanku, why Pureview was lost, why qwerty was lost.

What stays is the name and a believe Nokia is still the same Nokia like before.

Edited 2013-04-18 14:32 UTC

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RE[2]: Size matters
by GDXN on Thu 18th Apr 2013 16:44 in reply to "RE: Size matters"
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2012-07-02

The worst is that the Nokia problem was a management problem.

If Nokia had decided to go with Android, the had the possibility to negotiate a very strong position with Google, basically they had the possibility to negotiate to only incorporate the Play market without any other Google sanctioned apps having a true possibility for differentiation with other manufacturers.

Other possibility and the best for Nokia in my view was to split in two phone companies. A high quality business and government oriented company maintaining the Nokia name, with a strategy to unify S40 and Symbian in scalable smart featured phone platform and continuing pushing Meego to the high end market, all in a quasi unified QT development platform with some exclusive Meego extensions, only manufactured in Europe. And a second company more consumer oriented, that make phones in 3 platform, a common smart featured phone platform with the Nokia brand, Android and Windows but with the possibility to incorporate Meego depending on the market situation. This second company manufactured in any part of the world, pushing its phone strategy from low end to consumer high end.

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RE[3]: Size matters
by cdude on Sun 21st Apr 2013 12:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Size matters"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

they had the possibility to negotiate to only incorporate the Play market

Or use Ovi which was back then ahead of Google Play world-wide.

having a true possibility for differentiation with other manufacturers.

QT does on Android and Android apps on MeeGo just like Tizen is able to run Android and Bada apps. Even Blackberry went with an Android bridge. A pattern all those more successful then Nokia apply. Its only Elop who went on an ecosystem-war (and lost that). A fool to fight on such a front if it gives you nothing but lose.

Edited 2013-04-21 12:28 UTC

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RE[3]: Size matters
by zima on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 21:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Size matters"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

a strategy to unify S40 and Symbian in scalable smart featured phone platform and continuing pushing Meego to the high end market, all in a quasi unified QT development platform

They tried something like that for some time - and it didn't work.

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