Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 11:21 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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RE[4]: What would save Nokia
by twitterfire on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:37 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: What would save Nokia"
twitterfire
Member since:
2008-09-11

They sold 17 million Lumias in 2012.


Rank . . Manufacturer . Units . . . Market Share . Was in Q3 of 2012 . . OS supported (coming),[ending]
1 (1) . . . Samsung . . . 63.9 M . . 29.4 % . . . . . .( 32.8 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, bada, Windows, (Tizen)
2 (2) . . . Apple . . . . . . 47.8 M . . 22.0 % . . . . . . ( 15.7 %) . . . . . . . . . iOS
3 (3) . . . Huawei . . . . . 20.2 M . . . 9.3 % . . . . . . ( 9.3 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, (Tizen)
4 (5) . . . ZTE . . . . . . . 12.4 M . . . 5.7 % . . . . . . ( 4.7 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows, (Firefox)
5 (9) . . . Lenovo . . . . . . 9.4 M . . . 4.3 % . . . . . . ( 4.1 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
6 (4) . . . Sony . . . . . . . 8.7 M . . . 4.0 % . . . . . . ( 5.1 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
7 (8) . . . LG . . . . . . . . . 8.6 M . . . 4.0 % . . . . . . ( 4.2 %) . . . . . . . . . Android
8 (6) . . . HTC . . . . . . . . 7.0 M . . . 3.2 % . . . . . . ( 4.6 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows
9 (7) . . . RIM . . . . . . . . 6.9 M . . . 3.2 % . . . . . . ( 4.3 %) . . . . . . . . . Blackberry
10 (10) . Nokia . . . . . . . 6.6 M . . . 3.0 % . . . . . . ( 3.7 %) . . . . . . . . . Windows, [Symbian], [MeeGo]
Others . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.7 M . . 11.8 % . . . . . . ( 11.6 %) . . . . . . . . . Android, Windows, others, (Tizen), (Sailfish)
TOTAL . . . . . . . . . 217.2 M

As you can see, even Lenovo sold more smartphones than Nokia. Huawei and Zte sold much, much more. And 4 years ago Nokia was #1 mobile phone seller while Huawei and Lenovo were maybe in top 100 while Lenovo didn't even sell phones at that time.

Now, tell me more about Nokia's massive growth.

Edited 2013-04-18 14:38 UTC

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RE[5]: What would save Nokia
by Nelson on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:40 in reply to "RE[4]: What would save Nokia"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Its nice that you can copy and paste a chart from somewhere, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

I also never claimed that Nokia had explosive growth, only steady and encouraging sequential growth.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Except... Their growth in the market that counts - smartphones - isn't steady at all. In fact, ever since the announcement of the switch to WP, it's been dropping like a brick. Right up until the WP announcement, even Symbian sales were up EVERY. SINGLE. QUARTER. After the announcement, everything collapsed.

Even if you look at just Lumia sales, there hasn't been "steady" growth at all - it's been a rollercoaster of ups and downs.

It baffles me how you can still call Nokia healthy. Had Nokia been posting these very same figures with Android, you would have sung a completely different tune, proclaiming Nokia another example of nobody being able to make money off Android.

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RE[6]: What would save Nokia
by twitterfire on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:45 in reply to "RE[5]: What would save Nokia"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

Its nice that you can copy and paste a chart from somewhere, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

I also never claimed that Nokia had explosive growth, only steady and encouraging sequential growth.


Yeah, well, to see the big picture, let's express that growth you claim they are experimenting in percents of global smartphone sales figure.

What's that growth, then?

Edited 2013-04-18 14:45 UTC

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RE[6]: What would save Nokia
by cdude on Thu 18th Apr 2013 14:49 in reply to "RE[5]: What would save Nokia"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

So from 3.7% marketshare in Q3 to 3.0% now is unrelated to your statement they sequential grow?

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RE[6]: What would save Nokia
by tylerdurden on Thu 18th Apr 2013 16:41 in reply to "RE[5]: What would save Nokia"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

That chart puts your statement in context, which I assume it's why you did not appreciate it.

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