Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 11:21 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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RE[13]: If I were Nokia....
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 22:56 UTC in reply to "RE[12]: If I were Nokia...."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Stop trolling, buddy.

"Any fucking idiot" can release an operating system and an SDK?

That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, and that's saying a lot, since I've read more of your comments. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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RE[14]: If I were Nokia....
by lucas_maximus on Fri 19th Apr 2013 08:15 in reply to "RE[13]: If I were Nokia...."
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Yes anyone can release an SDK and an OS.

Have a look at the number of Ubuntu Respins. Lunduke reckons he's got an SDK.

Releasing something something these days != technical merit.

Edited 2013-04-19 08:17 UTC

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RE[15]: If I were Nokia....
by Nelson on Sun 21st Apr 2013 16:07 in reply to "RE[14]: If I were Nokia...."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I think the point here is that:

Jolla is held up as a measure of what Nokia should be doing, despite the fact that they haven't achieved a fraction of what Nokia has achieved.

Nokia changed strategies and had a phone out in 10 months executing on that strategy, then released 13 phones in the year that followed, and increased their volumes of said devices by 500% YoY.

Nokia has set up:

1. An Ad exchange network with highest bidder CPM across multiple publishers world wide.
2. A premium developer program meant to incentivize the development of quality apps. This is different than Microsoft's cash for apps that people complain about.
3. An entire suite of mapping solutions for ALL Windows Phones and a mapping solution on iOS
4. A subscription music streaming service which is cheaper than most others.
5. Developer hackathons, start up accelerators, and start up grants (AppCampus)
6. A vast retail and marketing presence in Europe
7. Brought many platform exclusives to Windows Phone.
8. Had the most insane developer outreach which has only intensified
9. Carrier billing in various markets for Windows Phone
10. Other things that don't come to mind.
11. Deals with app component vendors to bundle them for developers at dirt cheap prices, advertising and marketing material support.

Jolla has done a very, very, very small fraction of those things in around the same time frame. This is I think what lucas_maximus's overall point was.

Why is Jolla cheered for essentially no progress comparatively, when they haven't proven themselves in the market yet. Let them release, let's see how they work through their own special issues before we compare Nokia to them or desire Nokia to be like them.

Nokia has been one of the most agile companies this past year, when viewed objectively and not through Nokia hater glasses.

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