Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 09:31 UTC
Windows "Many PC OEMs are dissatisfied with what Microsoft has done with Windows 8 and the way the company has handled the negative response to the operating system. Privately, one OEM source told me that Microsoft is 'destroying' the PC industry, while another claimed that Windows 8 has 'handed over millions of customers to Apple'. Other OEMs are making their displeasure known publicly. Both Lenovo and Samsung have released Start button replacements for Windows 8." Windows Phone isn't the only thing not catching on. I'm really happy with my Surface RT - warts and all - but there's no denying the response to Windows 8 has been Vista-esque bad.
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WereCatf
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2006-02-15

On hardware-side of things we're actually doing pretty damn well these days, especially if you take into account the explosive growth in cheap, ARM-powered boards that are really only lacking more connectors, some more standardization and neater cases before they could be considered PCs in the same sense as the x86-based ones are.

It's the OS-side of things that's at the moment stumbling around, with Linux still not quite being in the position to take over Windows, with OSX being locked only to Apple's devices and with Microsoft's management caught with their thumbs up their asses wrt. Windows. There's a potential slot for even a complete newcomer to enter the field and take the world by storm if Windows 8.1 fails, just as long as someone with the resources and future-proofed insight was willing to step in and take command of things. I doubt it would be Linux, though, in any of its current forms and Apple is seemingly content with wielding full vendor-lockin.

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

I doubt it would be Linux, though, in any of its current forms


But I strongly suspect it will be Linux in yet another remix.

Windows will never die. DOS is still kicking, for that matter. But the Wintel monopoly is toast. Choice with a web core appears to be the new computing platform, and the open technologies such as Linux and Qt provide a lot of fodder for the computing gene pool.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

"I doubt it would be Linux, though, in any of its current forms


But I strongly suspect it will be Linux in yet another remix.
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That's exactly why I phrased it as I did. I don't feel comfortable predicting whether it will be a Linux-kernel + modifications + some new userland or not, but that would be the easiest path forward.

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twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

But the Wintel monopoly is toast. Choice with a web core appears to be the new computing platform


Show me the web counterparts to Visual Studio, 3d Max, Full Featured Photoshop, Maya, Autocad, WoW, Guild Wars 2. ;)

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twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

if you take into account the explosive growth in cheap, ARM-powered boards that are really only lacking more connectors, some more standardization and neater cases before they could be considered PCs in the same sense as the x86-based ones are.


I don't see any explosive growth in such boards. The CPU in an ARM board or ARM tv stick is how many times slower than a core i7? Maybe 50x?

I don't see ARM CPUs running heavy tasks in the near future. Even the upcoming ARM64 will probably be much weaker than x86.

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0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05


I don't see ARM CPUs running heavy tasks in the near future. Even the upcoming ARM64 will probably be much weaker than x86.


A significant portion of the consumer market does not run "heavy" tasks and has no use for such systems. The typical low end x86 system nowadays is way overkill for what they're using their systems for. An ARM based whether Cortex A15 or ARMv8 system would provide enough CPU power. ARM systems will start eating away at the low end market just as Intel GPUs are eating away at the low end market for AMD / NVIDIA GPUs.

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