Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 09:31 UTC
Windows "Many PC OEMs are dissatisfied with what Microsoft has done with Windows 8 and the way the company has handled the negative response to the operating system. Privately, one OEM source told me that Microsoft is 'destroying' the PC industry, while another claimed that Windows 8 has 'handed over millions of customers to Apple'. Other OEMs are making their displeasure known publicly. Both Lenovo and Samsung have released Start button replacements for Windows 8." Windows Phone isn't the only thing not catching on. I'm really happy with my Surface RT - warts and all - but there's no denying the response to Windows 8 has been Vista-esque bad.
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Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Fri 19th Apr 2013 10:27 UTC
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7, so it would have been a better version of Windows if someone hadn't stuck the Metro bit on it and removed the Start button.

I've been using Windows 8 for a while now, but I still feel like using 2 systems, the classic Windows one and Metro. The last one feels like a tablet emulator stuck on Windows.

Why not boot Windows 8 in to classic desktop mode, put the Start button back and use Metro as a service to run Metro/tablet software.

The Metro apps on Windows 8 don't make any sense. They are limited versions of classic desktop ones sporting big buttons.

But I don't think fixing Windows will sell more PCs. If a PC runs Windows 7 fine it will run Windows 8 fine, why not just install Windows 8 on it then? Hell, Windows 7 even runs fine on most Windows XP PCs.

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by shotsman on Fri 19th Apr 2013 12:21 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

And Pigs might fly.

for MS to re-instate basically the Win 7 desktop will be a mega admission of failure on their part. Heads will roll in Redmond.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Fri 19th Apr 2013 12:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I think such an admission would work in their favor. It would show the customer that they are willing to listen and provide what we want.

Not fixing this situation will just make it worse.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by dnebdal on Fri 19th Apr 2013 12:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
dnebdal Member since:
2008-08-27

And Pigs might fly.

for MS to re-instate basically the Win 7 desktop will be a mega admission of failure on their part. Heads will roll in Redmond.


The rumor is that they'll add boot-to-desktop as an option, disabled by default. If they do the same for the start button/menu, they can talk it down by saying something like "while Windows 8 was mostly a consumer-targeted release, the new Windows 8.1 has value-added features for the business market, such as options to enable certain legacy behaviors to ease transition".

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by phoenix on Fri 19th Apr 2013 17:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

They've done it before. Just look at the history of MS BOB for a parallel (not a perfect parallel, but close).

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by Lurking_Grue on Fri 19th Apr 2013 18:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
Lurking_Grue Member since:
2013-03-15

> Heads will roll in Redmond.

And so they should.

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