Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 14:09 UTC
Apple "All of those questions, messages, and stern commands that people have been whispering to Siri are stored on Apple servers for up to two years, Wired can now report. Yesterday, we raised concerns about some fuzzy disclosures in Siri's privacy policy. After our story ran, Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller called to explain Apple's policy, something privacy advocates have asking for." Apple cares about your privacy.
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RE[4]: caring
by Alfman on Sat 20th Apr 2013 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: caring"
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"There is ZERO EVIDENCE that Apple was PRESSURED and changed/altered/modified/adjusted their policies AS A RESULT OF PRESSURE."

Maybe, but isn't the only reason any corporations have privacy policies in the first place a result of public pressure? That wasn't always the case.

Do you pay your taxes? I might say "there is ZERO EVIDENCE that you were PRESSURED and changed/altered/modified/adjusted your behaviour AS A RESULT OF PRESSURE". But the pressure is most certainly there even if there's zero evidence that it affected your behaviour.

Good corporations will bow to public pressure BEFORE the point where there is evidence that they were pressured.

Edited 2013-04-20 17:09 UTC

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RE[5]: caring
by jared_wilkes on Sun 21st Apr 2013 14:08 in reply to "RE[4]: caring"
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No, I think it's nonsense to redefine "pressured" to "complying with the laws of the land."

And, again, some ACLU member wrote an obscure, not widely read blog post a year ago that never even puts the question to Apple and then another journalist asked Apple a year later and got an answer within 24 hours -- if that's "pressuring Apple" and "Apple responding to the pressure", you haven't been following Apple, the pressures put on it, media coverage, and how Apple responds to public pressure... because this is nothing in comparison to typical Greenpeace idiocy as just ne example.

Edited 2013-04-21 14:12 UTC

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RE[6]: caring
by Alfman on Sun 21st Apr 2013 19:03 in reply to "RE[5]: caring"
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"No, I think it's nonsense to redefine 'pressured' to 'complying with the laws of the land.'"

The point was that companies, like individuals, change their courses of action when there's public pressure. Without pressure (and "laws of the land" for that matter too), they would be much more devious than they are. I think this is a pretty fair statement, which you probably would not have any problem with it if we were talking about microsoft, google, oracle, or anybody other than apple.

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