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Apple "All of those questions, messages, and stern commands that people have been whispering to Siri are stored on Apple servers for up to two years, Wired can now report. Yesterday, we raised concerns about some fuzzy disclosures in Siri's privacy policy. After our story ran, Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller called to explain Apple's policy, something privacy advocates have asking for." Apple cares about your privacy.
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RE[4]: Finally?
by bassbeast on Sun 21st Apr 2013 22:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Finally?"
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Ya know, somebody really ought to do a study on the whole "treating corps like ballclubs" phenomena because I have noticed it has gone waaay up as have labeling anybody who isn't part of the ballclub attitude as shills or haters and I really don't get it.

I mean I could understand it if they owned a shitload of stock or something but they don't, I might even be able to put it down to buyer's remorse, like those poor saps that got burnt by the Apple laptops with Nvidia GPUs but people will be just as insane-o when it comes to free software or companies like Google where they don't have a cent invested...so why? Why do they do that?

I like AMD CPUs (still think the bang for the buck can't be beat, not when I'm picking up Athlon triples that have 80% unlock rates for $45) and Asusrock boards and laptops, Like Win 7 but hate Win 8, like Samsung HDDs but hate Seagate, but if you feel differently about any of those...okay? It would be as silly for me to get upset because you feel differently as it would to get mad because you prefer tacos over fried chicken.

I don't know, maybe I'm just too damned old and aren't hip enough to get it or something but I have never understood why any article with the big three, Apple, Google, or MSFT, seem to have the fanboys come out in force to either "defend the company" or to tear it down because they are rooting for the other guy. all I can think of when i see this crap is that old Mel Brooks bit "All go to hell except cave 76!" because it seems just as pointless and stupid to me.

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RE[5]: Finally?
by Tony Swash on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 05:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Finally?"
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2009-08-22

Ya know, somebody really ought to do a study on the whole "treating corps like ballclubs" phenomena because I have noticed it has gone waaay up as have labeling anybody who isn't part of the ballclub attitude as shills or haters and I really don't get it.

I mean I could understand it if they owned a shitload of stock or something but they don't, I might even be able to put it down to buyer's remorse, like those poor saps that got burnt by the Apple laptops with Nvidia GPUs but people will be just as insane-o when it comes to free software or companies like Google where they don't have a cent invested...so why? Why do they do that?

I like AMD CPUs (still think the bang for the buck can't be beat, not when I'm picking up Athlon triples that have 80% unlock rates for $45) and Asusrock boards and laptops, Like Win 7 but hate Win 8, like Samsung HDDs but hate Seagate, but if you feel differently about any of those...okay? It would be as silly for me to get upset because you feel differently as it would to get mad because you prefer tacos over fried chicken.

I don't know, maybe I'm just too damned old and aren't hip enough to get it or something but I have never understood why any article with the big three, Apple, Google, or MSFT, seem to have the fanboys come out in force to either "defend the company" or to tear it down because they are rooting for the other guy. all I can think of when i see this crap is that old Mel Brooks bit "All go to hell except cave 76!" because it seems just as pointless and stupid to me.


Frankly it's the rabid anti-fans that seem more inexplicable.

If someone likes a company and it's products I think defending it in public is an OK thing to do, especially when confronted with such shabby journalistic practices as the use of the word 'finally' in the article under discussion, which you will note I attacked with some fairly gently sarcasm.

Compare my comment to, for example, that of Curio's where in response he actually shouts out in capital letters that Apple are " controlling FASCIST, NAZI, JACKBOOTED, thugs", presumably because of the way they administer the App store or perhaps because they won't let Flash run on their devices. Don't you think that such a comment is more weird, more disturbing and more worthy of counter-comment than my relatively restrained 'fandom'?

If Curios bizzare anti-Apple rage was a one off then it would be just the ravings of nut job but such hyperbolic comments about mostly, but not exclusively, Apple are all too common and are often left un-critiqured. I think criticising a company or a product or a practice in the tech world is just fine as long as it is done in a reasonably rational way, perhaps in a way that teases out the issues in an interesting fashion or offers up a different analysis or data for consideration. But when people start frothing at the mouth about something being 'evil' or worse than the Nazis of whatever then I think they should be called out about their poisonous and idiotic rhetoric.

Edited 2013-04-22 06:01 UTC

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RE[6]: Finally?
by bassbeast on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 23:30 in reply to "RE[5]: Finally?"
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2007-11-11

All you are doing is defending the practice which again...totally batshit.

Now if somebody is posting obvious lies, like "Windows BSODs daily" or "All Apple products are made in sweatshops" now it is perfectly fine and dandy to post "That is incorrect, here are the facts" dot dot dot and preferably cite examples with citations so you aren't just pulling them out your behind.

But I'm sorry but reading some of your posts would make one think you drive a car with an Apple sticker on it and have multiple non computer items with the Apple logo (and God have mercy if that is true) and if you don't have stock or a vested interest in the company? that is just batshit.

Its like how you will see macheads jump through logic hoops rather than accept "Macs are expensive" which duh! Even Steve said they were, his whole strategy was to make Apple a top tier brand like Prada or Porsche and you don't do that by providing "good value" or any of that bull, you do it by being more expensive than the other guy!

So while I agree completely that the "anti" posts are just as batshit, which I pointed out in my original post BTW, that don't make the pro posts any less batshit, just a different kind of batshit. To defend batshit behavior by pointing out the other guy is more batshit is as pathetic as those that defend gitmo by saying "Look at what china does"...and? Who gives a crap what THEY are doing, what we are talking about is what YOU are doing and just because somebody somewhere on the planet is worse does NOT give you a free pass..get it now?

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