Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 12:10 UTC
Windows The Verge confirms an earlier story by Mary Jo Foley. "Microsoft is preparing to revive the traditional Start button it killed with Windows 8. Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that Windows 8.1 will include the return of the Start button. We understand that the button will act as a method to simply access the Start Screen, and will not include the traditional Start Menu. The button is said to look near-identical to the existing Windows flag used in the Charm bar."
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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 15:20 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

Obviously, you're speaking from your own personal experience which is cool and everything. But a lot of what you are describing is non obvious to someone sitting down with it for the first time. Its not as familiar as win 7 was. I think someone would do just as good of a job figuring it out as they would with gnome3 or unity.

Eh, I think it lets people know that the hot corner is there. I've seen non techy people get stuck in the desktop on win 8, not sure how to get back to the "block screen". No, they haven't been aware of the windows key that's been there since '95.

I don't understand why they didn't do that in the first place. Maybe having it there will just make people miss win 7's start menu all the more? At least it looks different than the win 7 start button so it gives them a clue its different in function.

Edited 2013-04-22 15:27 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 15:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I should think everybody should know by now about the hot corners.

It's hard to imagine people buying Windows 8 and not being able discover it either by themselves or with help AND then upgrading to Windows 8.1.

I just don't think Metro adds anything, yet. It's nice to have a tablet emulator included in Windows, but Microsoft should know there would be at least a very long transition period from classic stuff to more modern Metro.

If Metro means, clean, mean and lacking options I think classic desktop applications will be with us for a long time. Even Office 2013 isn't Metro and after trying it it seems like Office 2010 with a slight Metro facelift.

I and many people think it's easy to fix Windows 8: boot to classic, Start menu, done. Have a boot in to Metro as an option, why not.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

It's hard to imagine people buying Windows 8 and not being able discover it either by themselves or with help AND then upgrading to Windows 8.1.


Yeah, that might be unlikely, but I was thinking more of the people trying it for the first time and getting frustrated by it. I think they would have better luck if there was a start button. I was watching tv with a non tech friend, and they literately shouted at the tv when some ad described windows 8 as "easy to use".

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by contextfree on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 03:54 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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2009-06-01

They didn't do it because the button couldn't be there outside the desktop (because not showing any system chrome was a goal for the new immersive apps) so putting it on the desktop made it less consistent and actually harder to learn (because rather than learning to click the corner, people would learn "click the button if it's there only it's not there some of the time")

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