Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 12:10 UTC
Windows The Verge confirms an earlier story by Mary Jo Foley. "Microsoft is preparing to revive the traditional Start button it killed with Windows 8. Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that Windows 8.1 will include the return of the Start button. We understand that the button will act as a method to simply access the Start Screen, and will not include the traditional Start Menu. The button is said to look near-identical to the existing Windows flag used in the Charm bar."
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RE: Missing the point
by MOS6510 on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 15:57 UTC in reply to "Missing the point"
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You can hide apps on the Start screen, but the problem that while this is your choice you don't have this choice regarding the classic desktop where everything is hidden (because of the missing Start menu button).

If I want Excel on the classic desktop, as it is a classic desktop app, I need to start it from Metro, then I'm taken to the classic desktop where I can pin it to the task bar and use that next time as a launcher.

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RE[2]: Missing the point
by avgalen on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 16:24 in reply to "RE: Missing the point"
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Rightclick on an icon in the startscreen: unpin from start. Now it is hidden. But you can still start it the way you start it in Windows 7: Press the winkey and type a few letters, or rightclick somewhere and choose All apps.

Applications are hidden by default on Windows 7 and don't appear until you open the startmenu. Applications are showing by default on Windows 8. How can anyone claim that Windows 7 makes it easier to find applications?

And to add an application to the taskbar doesn't require you to open it first. Just rightclick and "pin to taskbar". Yes, that is right, the startscreen actually has options for making the desktop work nicely.

The problem with Windows 8 is that the intro video just shows you 5 times how to open the charms bar in a flash 1.0 level animation. If they would have provided a 1 minute video of "this is how Windows 8 works differently from previous Windows versions" that really would have solved most complaints. Luckily such a video is provided by most OEM's but techpeople never watch those

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RE[3]: Missing the point
by tylerdurden on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 18:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Missing the point"
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The fact that it requires a video, in the XXI century after a couple decades of graphical desktops, to grasp basic functionality points towards windows 8 having some serious usability problems...

I can understand Microsoft's approach though trying to unify the desktop and the tablet/phone spaces. From a development/cost perspective.

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